BluRay Vs HDDVD

[spharis]

I'm going to raise the flag on the unbreakable part. It probably hasn't been broken because there isn't a need to break it at this time.

Are you familiar with how Apple's DRM works? It hasn't been broken unless by digital recording (virtual card to card) and Sony's BD+ works very similar if I understand it correclty. The idea on Blu is that the players are updated along with discs, so while the old disc may be broken, new releases are not. Unbreakable, of course not, but a major pain in the *** that cost comsumers more money for every purchase made...you bet. Why support it? 50 years ago this crap would never have worked for a company.

[da.bell]

You can also bet a major factor in the studios moving to Blu is due to the additional copy protection that Sony is selling as unbreakable.

I'm going to raise the flag on the unbreakable part. It probably hasn't been broken because there isn't a need to break it at this time.

[da.bell]

Here is another interesting article.

http://news.zdnet.com/2010-9584_22-6226725.html

[spharis]

There are copy protection methods and DRM for Blu-Ray that are not yet cracked, however they are not being used entirely. You can bet Sony is going to start using it once it starts moving more movies. Rootkit with your movie anyone? You can also bet a major factor in the studios moving to Blu is due to the additional copy protection that Sony is selling as unbreakable. These greedy jacks are also making it more expensive for anyone that needs more regions by region locking. I refuse to support Sony and will openly admit to downloading illegally until they stop pushing socialist ideas on the consumer. I stopped purchasing RIAA studio releases long ago for the same reasons. If consumers would do the same, this would be stopped and you would be free to do what you wanted with media you paid for.

BluRay: AACS (cracked) BD+ (not cracked) BD-ROM Mark (not cracked) + region coding (PITA)

vs.

HD-DVD: AACS (cracked)

Both the competing Blu-Ray and HD-DVD formats will use the Advanced Access Content System, which was specifically designed for next-generation optical discs. However, the Blu-Ray group will also secure its discs with ROM Mark, a method to identify authentic Blu-Ray discs, as well as "BD+", which will serve to dynamically update the rights-management schemes in case workarounds or other cracks are discovered and exploited.

The Blu-Ray Disc Association is comprised of 143 members, including Apple, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Mitsubishi, Panasonic Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sony, TDK, Twentieth Century Fox, and Walt Disney Pictures and Television.

The additional protection schemes proved to be the tipping point for Fox, a company executive said. The studio announced last Friday that it would be releasing its content on the Blu-ray format.

"We made no secret when we approached both formats that we'd make a decision primarily on content protection," said Andrew Setos, president of engineering for the Fox Entertainment Group, in an interview.

"Our announcement last Friday that we would be in fact publishing on Blu-Ray disc best was a result of content protection, and no other issues," Setos added, including the potential cost of replicating the discs.

[da.bell]

There really isn't anything out that can not be hacked. It might take time but it will eventually get hacked. Unfortunate but true.

[ragboy]

Bluray is also hackable. I have software that decrypts both.

[TeamAllen]

Maybe studios are supporting Blu-Ray because it has been holding off the hackers?

[zad0030]

Bluray vs HDDVD....winner is neither.

http://blogs.inquirer.net/atplay/200...dvd-who-cares/

[ragboy]

I got that for my kids for xmas also. I also got battlestar galactica season 1, it was awesome rewatching on hddvd. Still haven't seen potter.

[da.bell]

Point well taken...

We got the Harry Potter series on HDDVD the other day.... Guess what I am going to start watching tonight???? Well, maybe the first two movies in the series.

[ragboy]

Sony has got to be throwing TONS of money at the studios, and who knows what else. They seem determined to not lose THIS format war. Think of how much bad press they took with launch of PS3, then imagine, the PS3 with its bluray player that held up launch of PS3, and pushed up costs, is now not worth anything? Sony has stated they expect the PS3 to be around for about 10 years. If bluray lost, how stupid would be those bluray players be in the PS3?

[da.bell]

I didn't get that from the article but I believe you. Just a matter of time before the cost is there.

IMO, HDDVD has been proven to work effectively. It's just that the major studios have not jumped into the format because they have no real clue to which format should win.

[ragboy]

From the article, they would lose money on the production side of BR. But again, time will tell.

Only in the short term. HDDVD is cheaper to produce because they are VERY similar to DVD, so pressing a disk is the same. Once bluray spins up everywhere, it will be just as cheap.

[Domsz06]

yup time will tell.

[da.bell]

I agree with the article, I would rather have HDDVD, but content is king. If the studios all move bluray, HDDVD will die. I haven't read a single article, except if from a PS3 fanboy, that doesn't like the HDDVD format over bluray. Everyone seems to concede that HDDVD is the consumers choice. I think the "on the fence" studios just want to have the war end. And they see the entrenched studios all on the BR side, like disney. If they move to bluray, they can make the war end faster, and make more money.

From the article, they would lose money on the production side of BR. But again, time will tell.