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    Well we are 3 for 3. We have used suck gate on all three boats and it works perfectly Big clean wave with tons of push. However on all 3 boats we have experienced water in the engine compartment. Last night on a buddies 24' Supra we unknowingly submerged the as much as half of the engine. Worse yet his bilge stopped working entirely so we had to pull off the water. I don't know if anyone else has had any issues with this but may its a tad bit concerning. Love the way these things work and no matter how far back and how low I position them we are having issues taking on water on 3 completely different boats. I may try turning it around so that the plate is all the way at the back edge of the boat in an effort to prevent this.

    On a different note we did try 2 totally different version of suck gate. Mine and one my buddy made with a bit longer plate and a 45 degree angle. Resembles a small version of the Ronix wake sharper but with suction cups instead of Velcro. I felt like his produced a slightly steeper wave. However no matter the sharp angle both versions worked about the same.

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      Has anyone ran the actual Mission Delta that has issues with the water spraying up? We have not had ours out yet. I am wondering if the Delta design with the tapered edges and the holes in the face have something to minimize the water pushing over the top and causing the upward deflection?
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        Yeah I don't know. Mine was designed very similar.
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          As was mine. No water problems


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            You ever have that moment when you are ready for an awesome day of wake surfing and you realize to left suck gate at home. [emoji22] had to run listed today but still had fun.


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              I tried my Mission for the first time today. Had a few hours by myself and had the following observations.

              - The even weight wave was not that impressive.

              - I tried my usual listed setting and without people in the boat it will not make a wave. I put the delta on and bam! I have never seen this wave this tall and long. I would say it's equal a comp Z3 wave with adjustability and I only had myself in the boat. The wave was a wall at taps 8 and had adjustability down to taps 1 just like the AVX.

              - The best setting. Was Running the delta in the reverse setting as far back as possible right above the ledge (so suction cups in front of the plate). Surf side locker full 1000lbs, offside 300, 155 fat brick on the seat and no bow weight. Speed at 11.6 taps at 6 with plenty of adjustability.

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              Listed before Delta:


              Listed same weight after Delta:


              All in all I would say lots of potential. I did try the regular side and need to spend more time on that, but I do want to ride both sides. I have not rode it yet,but hope to in the next couple days or will have to wait until after the next Endless Wave Event in Texas next week.

              Also thanks to IDboating because ironically my Speedset touch pad was on its last leg today. It will only speed up not down and I ordered his replacement unit. I will have to change that soon.

              I thought about building a copy but my time is in short supply and not sure the home made version would hold up in reverse orientation as I ran.
              Last edited by majestic; 07-11-2016, 03:20 AM.

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                Originally posted by majestic View Post
                in reverse orientation as I ran.
                Did you change the faceplate when you reversed it?

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                  That is interesting, running it reversed. But isn't the Delta gate right at 90*? If so it doesn't change the angle to run it in reverse, you're just able to move the gate closer to the rear of the boat? I'll be building a new one this week as mine fell off due to some large waves hitting it and knocking it off, and breaking my leash in the process.

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                  Like fighting a big fish only to have it break your line. It was a sad day. So I'm interested in why exactly running in backwards worked better. Is that something you just came up with or does Delta tell you to try it?

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                    Originally posted by UNSTUCK View Post
                    That is interesting, running it reversed. But isn't the Delta gate right at 90*? If so it doesn't change the angle to run it in reverse, you're just able to move the gate closer to the rear of the boat? I'll be building a new one this week as mine fell off due to some large waves hitting it and knocking it off, and breaking my leash in the process.
                    No, it's different. When running in the reverse position, you take the faceplate off and put it on backwards....

                    The face of the delta is tapered...

                    Here is a pic I found on another forum that you can kinda tell. The faceplate of the delta should always face forwards...

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                      Had my first run with my DIY Delta. I decided to fill everything up - 750 lb bag in each rear locker, 600 lb (approx) in the bow. Gate on port side. It was a failure. At 13 mph the wake wouldn't clean up - didn't want to go faster and risk losing my gate. Obviously too heavy in the rear. I then pumped out roughly half the water in the rear bags - so around 350 lbs each, and saw a better result. Taps was set to 2. The wave looked ok, relatively clean curl, pocket was still short, maybe a foot or two longer than listed but I didn't have enough push to go ropeless. It could be me. I'm a new surfer. I'm using a Ronix Powertail (the big version 5 ft as I'm 220 lbs.)

                      Obviously needs some more testing. Stay tuned!


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                        13 seems fast to me. Some may be able to run that fast but 12 is about my max. What make and model is your boat? Where was the gate positioned on the bot and water line?


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                          Rode listed with the Delta tonight and amazed! My boat now has the wave I have been looking for. The wave has so much push and the transition is smooth.

                          Here is the spot I found the best.

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                            Originally posted by skiguy View Post
                            Had my first run with my DIY Delta. I decided to fill everything up - 750 lb bag in each rear locker, 600 lb (approx) in the bow. Gate on port side. It was a failure. At 13 mph the wake wouldn't clean up - didn't want to go faster and risk losing my gate. Obviously too heavy in the rear. I then pumped out roughly half the water in the rear bags - so around 350 lbs each, and saw a better result. Taps was set to 2. The wave looked ok, relatively clean curl, pocket was still short, maybe a foot or two longer than listed but I didn't have enough push to go ropeless. It could be me. I'm a new surfer. I'm using a Ronix Powertail (the big version 5 ft as I'm 220 lbs.)

                            Obviously needs some more testing. Stay tuned!


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                            Run full on surf side locker and about 50-60% on non surf side. That's why yours was a mess. Slightly listed with gate and you will be amazed! But make sure and fill surf side.


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                              I'll be trying mine this weekend, gonna start with 3k in the rear and 1k in the bow evenly weighted and start with the delta as far back as possible. Haven't seen a 24 run this yet so I'll post results after my trip.
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                                Originally posted by jbgp1200 View Post
                                13 seems fast to me. Some may be able to run that fast but 12 is about my max. What make and model is your boat? Where was the gate positioned on the bot and water line?


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                                with both 750's full, I started out at 10mph and worked my way up to 13mph in .2 increments. The gate was positioned port side with rear suction cup about 4 inches from the stern. I mounted it just above the lower shelf, tilted slightly down. With that much ballast it was mostly submerged at rest.

                                I have an 05 22v.

                                I appreciate any help!




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