Mission Boat Gear Delta - Universal Surf Gate!

[jbgp1200]

13 seems fast to me. Some may be able to run that fast but 12 is about my max. What make and model is your boat? Where was the gate positioned on the bot and water line?


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[majestic]

Rode listed with the Delta tonight and amazed! My boat now has the wave I have been looking for. The wave has so much push and the transition is smooth.

Here is the spot I found the best.

[ICEMANFTR]

Had my first run with my DIY Delta. I decided to fill everything up - 750 lb bag in each rear locker, 600 lb (approx) in the bow. Gate on port side. It was a failure. At 13 mph the wake wouldn't clean up - didn't want to go faster and risk losing my gate. Obviously too heavy in the rear. I then pumped out roughly half the water in the rear bags - so around 350 lbs each, and saw a better result. Taps was set to 2. The wave looked ok, relatively clean curl, pocket was still short, maybe a foot or two longer than listed but I didn't have enough push to go ropeless. It could be me. I'm a new surfer. I'm using a Ronix Powertail (the big version 5 ft as I'm 220 lbs.)

Obviously needs some more testing. Stay tuned!


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Run full on surf side locker and about 50-60% on non surf side. That's why yours was a mess. Slightly listed with gate and you will be amazed! But make sure and fill surf side.


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[Thegerman618]

I'll be trying mine this weekend, gonna start with 3k in the rear and 1k in the bow evenly weighted and start with the delta as far back as possible. Haven't seen a 24 run this yet so I'll post results after my trip.

[skiguy]

13 seems fast to me. Some may be able to run that fast but 12 is about my max. What make and model is your boat? Where was the gate positioned on the bot and water line?


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with both 750's full, I started out at 10mph and worked my way up to 13mph in .2 increments. The gate was positioned port side with rear suction cup about 4 inches from the stern. I mounted it just above the lower shelf, tilted slightly down. With that much ballast it was mostly submerged at rest.

I have an 05 22v.

I appreciate any help!




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[skiguy]

Run full on surf side locker and about 50-60% on non surf side. That's why yours was a mess. Slightly listed with gate and you will be amazed! But make sure and fill surf side.


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That makes sense. I'll give it a try.


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[ICEMANFTR]

That makes sense. I'll give it a try.


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Otherwise what I have told others, fill both lockers and bow and drain non surf side tell it cleans up as you cruise around.


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[Dandy]

Rode listed with the Delta tonight and amazed! My boat now has the wave I have been looking for. The wave has so much push and the transition is smooth.

Here is the spot I found the best.

Majestic, to save me, and probably others, some time. Can you tell me (us) what your ballast set up was on your 22Ve while running with the Delta? And when you run it listed, you still place it opposite of the surf side correct?

[majestic]

Majestic, to save me, and probably others, some time. Can you tell me (us) what your ballast set up was on your 22Ve while running with the Delta? And when you run it listed, you still place it opposite of the surf side correct?

Last night I had 1000 pounds on surf side (Starboard), 300-400 in off side, no bow weight, driver, 130 pound 16 year old and 2 little kids. Taps at 6 speed at 11.6-11.8. Delta is in reverse orientation as far back as possible with the suction cup bottoms just above the hull step. And yes Delta still on the opposite side. The reverse orientation keeps the spray from going into the lockers. I still have lots of experimenting to do, but I am off to Wake the Desert to drive the 2017 RZX. I would love a new boat, but the Delta has made me love this boat all over again and after driving competitions for 5 years now I know what comp waves look and feel like and this is the real deal with only 2 days of testing it.

[Stingreye]

Wow, wave looks awesome! Looks steep for a surf system wave (a good thing).

Majestic, do you think 360s are slightly easier with the Delta? I have had a easier time and find the transition a little more friendly with gate waves than my Tige listed wave.

[majestic]

That was Taps at 6 and as you drop down it gets longer and more skimmy.

I don't know if 360's are ever easier, but I will say this I can usually get one behind every boat except a Tige. My son even said that he had never seen me ride one out behind our boat and the first run last night I landed one. This setup has more power in the back of the wave which was never the case before. Gate type boats usually have a smoother transition rather than a trough created by a listed boat. This seems to be best of both worlds. I was telling Ragboy last night my wave felt like it had RZX push and that great transition. I'm sure I will get slapped back into reality on Thursday when I am back in the RZX.

[Stingreye]

LOL, that's been my experience too. I love my steep powerful Tige wave and its easier to get my mini air.... but for whatever reason, I have a harder time riding out a 360 despite the power/push. Very cool to get your perspective since you are one of the Polar Bear vets/Wake9 comp guys that have been behind a ton of properly weighted boats and would not want to sacrifice wave quality with one of these setups.

I have spare actuator and I have been tempted to try a surf gate or NSS style surf system on my boat...... with your pics/experience, I am very tempted to try a NSS with a bit of list. Then again a mission delta would be much less time and effort.

[NICKYPOO]

Well, here's mine. Not sure when I'll be able to test it on my boat. I'll be driving the Trans Tahoe this weekend in a buddy's 22Ve and spending the rest of the weekend on it just cruising around.

[TeamAllen]

Looks good. I like the bend you put into the shelf supports so you need less extension on the lower bolts.
Good thinking!

[NICKYPOO]

Ya, those shelf supports aren't the fanciest things in the world. The angled sections kept falling out. The bend holds them in there a lot better. I might have a buddy weld them in there.