Originally posted by chpthril
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On the contrary, I did not actually criticize one party or the other. I simply offered up some food for thought. You on the other hand, have now fallen on both sides of the fence. You made a "Dems use food stamp" joke as your first reaction, and now 24 hrs later, you come at me for attacking the Dems. One could have easily concluded that the rich greedy white Reps used campaign donations to party through the night, while the Dems had a soup line for the homeless.
I'm sorry that you drew your own initial conclusion and offended yourself. My apologies.
Yes, the Abbot and Costello bit was supposed to be a
joke. Yes, both sides massage the numbers on all issues. Its the nature of the game. I apologize if you found it offensive, given your current situation. But there is no denying the fact that there are more people not working then the "unemployment" numbers reflect.
Some dont want to seek gainful employment because the Gov (state, local and Fed) enable them to not NEED to work. As noted in an earlier post, a Government body only has one way to generate money. So the tax dollars of every single working american goes to support this sector of people that choose not to work.
Some cant work or work at a full capacity do to a disability.
Some are under-employed as they are working 1 or 2 part time jobs as they cant find full time work that is in their trained area or at a pay level that they were once at.
Some have been unemployed for so long that they have gone through the local unemployment benefits and the federally funded extended benefits.
Some are here illegally, work under the table or with the use of one alias, while at the same time, taking advantage of social programs using another name. Once again, this is OUR tax dollars.
Believe me, Im as angry as you and Nobody are, about the current state of america. Its not about whether you wear a D or an R on your jersey, its about the need for change. You have no idea what I have been through in the past 4+ years. What I have lost, what I have given up and what I have sacrificed. Read what it states next to "Boat". Its obvious I no longer own the boat of my dreams. For the past 3 years, I worked a full-time job that had me on the road almost every day. Many where 10-12 hour days and some weeks I was on over night jobs for 2-3 nights. At the same time, my wife was working 3 part time jobs, one of which had here working every weekend. 3 of weekends a month, she was out of town, leaving Thursday and returning either late Sat or Sunday. There where many a week that I would be coming home from a trip as shes leaving or already gone. On some occasions, i had to leave out on a Sunday afternoon, because I needed to be on a job site at 8AM Monday morning at a job sute 4-5 hrs drive away. You wanna talk about a crappy situation! All this, while I was trying to operate and expand MLA. I was and still do work 7 days a week. During those 3 years, It was normal for me to be up til 10PM working on a customers boat, processing orders for customers, answering emails and PM's, placing stock orders, doing my accounting. I even took my vacation in order to spend 4 days doing the local boat show just to take advantage of the exposure. Since January, I have been full-time with MLA. up until Aug, I had one to two boats in the shop every week, so I was still working every day of the week and into the night when needed. Im now into the slow season and finally able to travel with the wife when when needs to be out of town.
Instead of calling people on this forum names (you didnt), i have channeled my anger toward the current economic and social state of the country and those responsible (yes, im responsible too), ive done my homework and have voted for the candidates that best align with my ideology. My hope is to have an administration that will work for all americans, instead of just pandering to the growing number of those who have their hands out while blaming others for them not having what others have. Our current admin has been the most desisive, the most dividing one in decades. Race relations have slipped back decades. he wants people to resent the the successful, rather then strive to achieve success.
Well, I resent those that didnt work for what they have. I resent those that where allowed to buy a 200K house on a 25K household income. I resent those that are able to buy a nice car, because their expensive groceries (same ones I have to buy) are taken care of through an EBT card. I resent the ones that get free day care because they dont work
, yet moms that want to and need to work, have trouble finding child care that allows them to work the hours they need. I resent those that have the free time, cause they dont work, to go stand in a line to get assistance on their utility bills. This frees up funds to pay their $120 a month cable bill, yet I watch one of 3 chnls that I get on my rabbit ears antenna. I resent those that get a free Obama phone, while I have a $150 a month plan because we NEED our phones in order to WORK!
I'm sorry that you drew your own initial conclusion and offended yourself. My apologies.
Yes, the Abbot and Costello bit was supposed to be a
joke. Yes, both sides massage the numbers on all issues. Its the nature of the game. I apologize if you found it offensive, given your current situation. But there is no denying the fact that there are more people not working then the "unemployment" numbers reflect. Some dont want to seek gainful employment because the Gov (state, local and Fed) enable them to not NEED to work. As noted in an earlier post, a Government body only has one way to generate money. So the tax dollars of every single working american goes to support this sector of people that choose not to work.
Some cant work or work at a full capacity do to a disability.
Some are under-employed as they are working 1 or 2 part time jobs as they cant find full time work that is in their trained area or at a pay level that they were once at.
Some have been unemployed for so long that they have gone through the local unemployment benefits and the federally funded extended benefits.
Some are here illegally, work under the table or with the use of one alias, while at the same time, taking advantage of social programs using another name. Once again, this is OUR tax dollars.
Believe me, Im as angry as you and Nobody are, about the current state of america. Its not about whether you wear a D or an R on your jersey, its about the need for change. You have no idea what I have been through in the past 4+ years. What I have lost, what I have given up and what I have sacrificed. Read what it states next to "Boat". Its obvious I no longer own the boat of my dreams. For the past 3 years, I worked a full-time job that had me on the road almost every day. Many where 10-12 hour days and some weeks I was on over night jobs for 2-3 nights. At the same time, my wife was working 3 part time jobs, one of which had here working every weekend. 3 of weekends a month, she was out of town, leaving Thursday and returning either late Sat or Sunday. There where many a week that I would be coming home from a trip as shes leaving or already gone. On some occasions, i had to leave out on a Sunday afternoon, because I needed to be on a job site at 8AM Monday morning at a job sute 4-5 hrs drive away. You wanna talk about a crappy situation! All this, while I was trying to operate and expand MLA. I was and still do work 7 days a week. During those 3 years, It was normal for me to be up til 10PM working on a customers boat, processing orders for customers, answering emails and PM's, placing stock orders, doing my accounting. I even took my vacation in order to spend 4 days doing the local boat show just to take advantage of the exposure. Since January, I have been full-time with MLA. up until Aug, I had one to two boats in the shop every week, so I was still working every day of the week and into the night when needed. Im now into the slow season and finally able to travel with the wife when when needs to be out of town.
Instead of calling people on this forum names (you didnt), i have channeled my anger toward the current economic and social state of the country and those responsible (yes, im responsible too), ive done my homework and have voted for the candidates that best align with my ideology. My hope is to have an administration that will work for all americans, instead of just pandering to the growing number of those who have their hands out while blaming others for them not having what others have. Our current admin has been the most desisive, the most dividing one in decades. Race relations have slipped back decades. he wants people to resent the the successful, rather then strive to achieve success.
Well, I resent those that didnt work for what they have. I resent those that where allowed to buy a 200K house on a 25K household income. I resent those that are able to buy a nice car, because their expensive groceries (same ones I have to buy) are taken care of through an EBT card. I resent the ones that get free day care because they dont work
, yet moms that want to and need to work, have trouble finding child care that allows them to work the hours they need. I resent those that have the free time, cause they dont work, to go stand in a line to get assistance on their utility bills. This frees up funds to pay their $120 a month cable bill, yet I watch one of 3 chnls that I get on my rabbit ears antenna. I resent those that get a free Obama phone, while I have a $150 a month plan because we NEED our phones in order to WORK!My food shots were meant as a joke that also was misinterpreted. 2009 became the staging point for my nightmare. Likeyou I was forced to sell my Candy Corn Boat. We thought that bebefits I purchased from the private sector to help me if I landed up with full disability has denied my coverage. We had no choice but to sell it because we could not afford to use it.
Apoligies are not needed. I understand what you have been thru and frankly it sucks. In the early eighties things were tough. 11% interest on a mortgage, 1 full time job at straight salary, A weekend job unloading Toyota's at the railyard, pizza deliveries at night and odd jobs. If hard work would help me get ahead like you and yours we busted our humps. I would do it again if I could.
People who get a free ride do frustrate me. For some there is no choice. But for others a couple of partime jobs and work ethics are something some of the line standers should do. It is work albeit not under the best circumstances but it helps. Social handouts are too easy to get and tax loopholes that many with money can use while many do not have the means to use loopholes. I am fed up with the fed in many ways and feel that Obama needs change but so do others.
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