Mission Boat Gear Delta - Universal Surf Gate!

[Taylormoto]

Couple ideas I came up with that work way better then the delta.
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[Thegerman618]

Taylormoto-What Model Boat is that!!!??? That wave is ridiculous

PLEASE POST YOUR SETUP!!!

[Taylormoto]

2002 Tige 21V riders edition
Shaved swim step
400lbs each rear locker
200lbs lead bags under mid boat
500lbs bow bag under the seats
Surf exhaust changed the game and the wave a bit
Suc gate location all the way in the rear and at the very lowest flat area.
Taps at 4
11.6-14mph but taps need to go to 6 at 14mph to keep the nose up
Angle of gate at 65°
3500w of strerio to keep the surfer pumped
I run with everyone in the rear seating accept i like to put one fatty in the front on riders side.
I could put 1400 each rear locker with my sacs but I dont have the power to push the boat that weighted with the gate on. Looking to go with a new prop to help with that.
The angle adjustment of the gate is key though. I have been testing this thing on 8 different boats now and each one is different on the sweet spot. Location and angle.
I have tested against the Delta and am not impressed with it at all. The gas consumption is outragous(yes i know I am boating so fuel goes quick) and the spray is crazy due to the set angle of 88°.
Not trying to bash on delta at all just showing you can make a way better product in your garage and get just as good or better results. It looks like Delta will have one more in stock to who ever gets it first good luck and pad the back of your boat. Mine got returned today.

[BCRider]

Taylormoto: That does look a lot better. I was thinking of something along that line as well. I like how you made it adjustable. I made mine at 10 degree's and I think it may just be too much drag on it. I was also thinking of making it a bit longer as well to use two suction cups in a row. Lastly, to notch it so it would conform to the angled side of the VE. I know it can be changed left to right as easy but I don't run goofy often at all.

[Taylormoto]

Two cups should be plenty and it really limits the locations you can place it. Thats the reason I made a new one was to get the cups closer together and thin out the sides alot. Now I can get this thing to stick almost anywhere on my boat. If you are having problems with it sticking then either its on a graphic(Many new graphics have picroscopic holes on the whole deacl to help installer not get bubbles) or I found even just a boat cleaner is slick enough to make them fall off. A little alcohol wipe down before the boat gets dropped in the water and it should never fall off. Also many people dont get the water perged out of the suction cups before locking them down(known as hydro lock).

[duffymahoney]

2002 Tige 21V riders edition
Shaved swim step
400lbs each rear locker
200lbs lead bags under mid boat
500lbs bow bag under the seats
Surf exhaust changed the game and the wave a bit
Suc gate location all the way in the rear and at the very lowest flat area.
Taps at 4
11.6-14mph but taps need to go to 6 at 14mph to keep the nose up
Angle of gate at 65°
3500w of strerio to keep the surfer pumped
I run with everyone in the rear seating accept i like to put one fatty in the front on riders side.
I could put 1400 each rear locker with my sacs but I dont have the power to push the boat that weighted with the gate on. Looking to go with a new prop to help with that.
The angle adjustment of the gate is key though. I have been testing this thing on 8 different boats now and each one is different on the sweet spot. Location and angle.
I have tested against the Delta and am not impressed with it at all. The gas consumption is outragous(yes i know I am boating so fuel goes quick) and the spray is crazy due to the set angle of 88°.
Not trying to bash on delta at all just showing you can make a way better product in your garage and get just as good or better results. It looks like Delta will have one more in stock to who ever gets it first good luck and pad the back of your boat. Mine got returned today.

So you prefer 65 degrees? I am building one today for fun.

[Greeko]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/nwU8qFhX6Yg

That wave looks like crap..... flat, no lip...washed out... not really selling the system...

[Greeko]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BItjt1Jj...by=surfosoyoos

That's a proper wave on a Z3!

[jslayde1]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BItjt1Jj...by=surfosoyoos

That's a proper wave on a Z3!

That is a good looking wave!

[D&P Powell]

That wave looks like crap..... flat, no lip...washed out... not really selling the system...

Thanks for your input. Please note, I am not here to argue about it one way or another... we just wanted to show what it does. One other factor comes into play though that should be considered when viewing this video - the conditions were crap as well. All things considered, we both liked surfing with it, but it does consume A TON of gas with everything weighted.

[Stingreye]

I bet if thegerman hung the camera low and to the side, you would think it's a new wave.


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[Thegerman618]

After reading my post I feel I gave a "knee jerk" response and I apologize to Greeko as my intention was not to attack him, his post, or his wave and subsequently I have deleted my post. The wave produced by any surf system should not be compared to any listed wave. I understand there are those with newer boats such as elevatedconcept and others for example that are able to produce comparable waves with surf systems to that of listed boats. However there are some that need or even require a system such as the Mission Delta to produce surfable waves and/or want the ability to switch quickly from side to side without having to swap ballast.

So again Greeko....I apologize for any malicious attitude or intent as I feel my post and reply was not professional or warranted on my part.

[duffymahoney]

Nicely said!

I am building a suck gate for fun. I should be able to give a detailed review of what I think vs a heavily listed boat.

[Germaine Marine]

The setup is key in any surf system wave just like it is in any listed wave. You can knock system boats all you want but the techology is changing the industry, from gates to hybrid systems like TAPS3 etc. Its taking a while for people to figure out setups, what works what doesent. The wave on my boat looked like **** when I got it compared to other boats I have owned that I leaned over, now as things are being learned and knowledge collectively pooled together the system boats such as mine are producing top notch elite waves that were said just a few months ago to not be possible. If I wanted to go back and have some eat crow, it would be easy. Some of those very few have been out with me and since put their boats up for sale to buy something new.

The minute you stop being open minded to change and how it could revolutionize things is the minute progression will halt.

As for gates I for one am ecstatic Duffy is going to build one, he can hybrid what works for him listed wise and pair it togetther.

The gates work wonders I loop them into the category of all the new stuff on new boats because they are making older boats produce elite waves, again when set up correctly. A friend stacked two 1100 bags in the rear of a 2006 ski supreme 20 foot, gated it and its absolutely fantastic. All while being safe to drive by all members of his family.

Love the tech thats changing everthing, lots of neat stuff coming down the pipe. Until then enjoy the ride.

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[duffymahoney]

The setup is key in any surf system wave just like it is in any listed wave. You can knock system boats all you want but the techology is changing the industry, from gates to hybrid systems like TAPS3 etc. Its taking a while for people to figure out setups, what works what doesent. The wave on my boat looked like **** when I got it compared to other boats I have owned that I leaned over, now as things are being learned and knowledge collectively pooled together the system boats such as mine are producing top notch elite waves that were said just a few months ago to not be possible. If I wanted to go back and have some eat crow, it would be easy. Some of those very few have been out with me and since put their boats up for sale to buy something new.

The minute you stop being open minded to change and how it could revolutionize things is the minute progression will halt.

As for gates I for one am ecstatic Duffy is going to build one, he can hybrid what works for him listed wise and pair it togetther.

The gates work wonders I loop them into the category of all the new stuff on new boats because they are making older boats produce elite waves, again when set up correctly. A friend stacked two 1100 bags in the rear of a 2006 ski supreme 20 foot, gated it and its absolutely fantastic. All while being safe to drive by all members of his family.

Love the tech thats changing everthing, lots of neat stuff coming down the pipe. Until then enjoy the ride.

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Surf systems are interesting. They are totally helping the sport and getting people out surfing. I will be surprised if it's makes my nicer, but who knows! I have surfed almost all new boats with systems and none touch my wave, it's actually pretty funny when I get an owner of a new g25 or whatever on my boat and their jaw drops I think heavily listed boats will become a rarity though. I should have mine done for the weekend.