My design for a TAPS3-VX

[What she said]

SUCK GATE
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[JohnnieMo]

Thanks BSReid.... that is an interesting idea. I'd be curious to see a picture of it. I could see how that might help. However the water coming over the top is a bigger concern than the water going under. You can see the water coming up and over and how it affects the wave. It makes a right mess of the topside of the wave - particularly when I add the offside ballast. Another point is the Vx cleans up a lot of that mess that you might get on a non-Vx boat due to the smooth outside edge.

I must say that after all this testing, the suck gate is a pretty awesome solution. It maintains the Vx wave, which I like. Plus it adds that extra long pocket. The other gimmicks just don't do as good a job. The small gate can be automated and made to be just as nice if I do it right. However it would take many weekends of work, and probably about $1000. The suck gate is free... or at worst I could build a new one for $100.

I've got a lot of figurin' to do!

[bsreid]

Just watched your video. The smaller tab looked by far the best, that's just my opinion. I feel if you made the smaller gate a little taller it would eliminate the rooster tail. A buddy of mine did that on his Calabria, basically adding surfgate and the results were amazing. I was looking at it the other day and it almost looks as if it a gate like yours, but another little wing coming off the bottom going in towards the centre of the boat, under the platform. I'm not totally sure what his design is but it really seems to work, it's something like this IMG_2130.jpg
Keep up the testing! Really neat to see, I know it's hard with the winter, as a fellow Canadian

[JohnnieMo]

So here is my latest video:

https://youtu.be/tST01BbRO4o

Unfortunately my "Centurion design" fell off launching the boat and I couldn't test it. So all I tested was the two different surf gate designs and how they compared to the suck gate.

Simple answer is the smaller gates work better than a bigger one. Either one needs to be taller to reduce spray. The closer you get to the back of the boat, the more height you need to protect from all that overspray.

I'd still like to test the Centurion tab, but I'm not sure I'll be able to before frost hits. Water was 55F this weekend.

[007]

Lol. My wife is a goofy footer. If I could make a good wave on both sides I would not own a boat! Good luck with your tests!

[JohnnieMo]

Dumb question. Are you trying to surf starboard or port with all these contraptions?

All my tests are for normal riding (port side). While I realize what is best for one side may be marginal on the other... I am willing to accept that. The only goofy surfer is my wife and she isn't picky.

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[BurnMac42]

My buddies 2016 supra burned to the ground he is giving me the swell system off of it. I think I can fit that system on my transom. Should be interesting! Just gotta clean the stainless and buy new lenco rams.

[JTs-rz2]

Hoping to test this weekend. Stay tuned.

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Dumb question. Are you trying to surf starboard or port with all these contraptions?

[JohnnieMo]

Hoping to test this weekend. Stay tuned.

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[bsreid]

Hey Johnnie.
Have you been able to get out and test your ideas, or is the weather been bad like over here on the west coast? I'm very interested in how these are working out for you.

[JohnnieMo]

True to form, we are having a miserably cold Labour Day long weekend here in Alberta. However the medium term forecast looks really solid. So that means a few more boating days for me before October and my job takes my life away.

As luck would have it, Ewok was coming through town today, so he stopped by and I put him to work. Great guy to bounce ideas off of! (and he had some good ones all on his own)

So we cooked up a few more designs to try. I'll let the pictures do the talking:























Given the success of the suck gates on my hull and others, I wanted to try out an adjustable gate. It is very compatible with the Vx, almost perfect for it, so I wanted to give one a try.

The Centurion tab design could work too, but I have more doubts about it.

I'll be hitting the lake next weekend, so I'll get them all painted out and tested!

Thanks again Ewok. Next time come when it is warmer

[JohnnieMo]

I would really like to experiment with adding a surf system on the back of my RZ4, but, I feel like you really only have one shot to get it right. I'm afraid I would put holes in my boat and then not like the result of whatever I committed to.

I've been able to all my testing so far without altering the boat itself in any way. I did drill six small holes in the Vx, but they are hidden and easy to patch. My remaining tests should be do-able with no further holes.

[b_jackson_03]

I would really like to experiment with adding a surf system on the back of my RZ4, but, I feel like you really only have one shot to get it right. I'm afraid I would put holes in my boat and then not like the result of whatever I committed to.

[duffymahoney]

He has the 2.0 swell system. Hope it fits.

[duffymahoney]

My buddies 2016 supra burned to the ground he is giving me the swell system off of it. I think I can fit that system on my transom. Should be interesting! Just gotta clean the stainless and buy new lenco rams.