Speedset will not adjust

[IDBoating]

I've replied back. Keep me posted!

[Timmy!]

PM replied to. Thanks for you help and ideas!

[IDBoating]

Oh now, come on. I grant that SOME failure modes would be unworkable, but for example replacing the snap domes is certainly doable. OTOH, repairing the PCB is hopeless since it's what is called a "potted module" where they put it in a box and fill the box with a hard material.

I'm sending you a PM.

[Timmy!]

Strike 1...

Greetings Tim,

Unfortunate due to the water proofing potting that incases the circuit board, these units cannot be reworked. We have tried different techniques but have failed in being able to rework or repair the unit.

Denise Root
President
EVS Manufacturing Inc.

[Timmy!]

That's exactly what I was thinking too. Looks like maybe they shifted ownership to the wife or a daughter or another female. Good for them if they were able to pull themselves back up. I reached out via email last night, I will let you all know if they get back to me.

[IDBoating]

And what do you know - EVS Manufacturing is in the same little WA State town, with the same zip code, as was Valberg LLC. Wanna bet the "V" in EVS stands for Valberg?

I'll bet it's the same company, perhaps reorganized, perhaps under new management, perhaps on the other side of a bankruptcy or liability suit, but the same basic company.

[Timmy!]

Ok, stopped by WWS tonight and found out that the R20 speedset is made by:
https://www.evsmanufacturing.com/customers.html
I tried to get a picture but it is worthless. That controller is tucked up there pretty good. I can try and get the part #, I thought my pic was good enough until I got home.

[Timmy!]

Awesome, GW! Thank you!

[gwhite94]

Tim, I will be up at the shop tomorrow doing some tuning on the boat, I will take a look.

[Timmy!]

I will go to the dealer and find out or ping my buddy Nick and have him look. The only issue is that they moved this to a not easy to access location.

[IDBoating]

Did Tige go to a new system for the R20's this year? If not, they are still consuming this piece as it is part of the R20's cruise control system.

Hmm, that syncs up nicely with the interesting fact that the R20 is still using a Medallion electronics package - the only model in the lineup to do so (everything else is Murphy at the moment). That implies they have a source for these touchpads (or else have enough of them in stock to cover their expected production of R20's for a while). Anyone buy a recent R20? Take a look at the sticker on the cabling... what vendor name is on it? What production date? Could tell us a WHOLE LOT about what's going on there.

If someone is near a dealer that has an R20 in stock, run down there and let us know what is on that sticker please!

[Timmy!]

Very good information. I believe that I have the wiring diagrams as part of my owner's manual set. Unfortunately, that is still in the boat that is shrink wrapped at the moment.

Did Tige go to a new system for the R20's this year? If not, they are still consuming this piece as it is part of the R20's cruise control system.

[IDBoating]

OK, I couldn't stand it. I had to do some research. It's tough without one of these to dig into, but reviewing this thread there's several hints in this photo:

The label says "Valberg LLC". That was a company in Monroe WA that made stuff like this. Rumor has it they're out of business, and even if they're around they won't be making these units anymore because Tige doesn't consume them.

Also, take a look at the PCB. The device to the right of connector JP1 is likely either a voltage regulator or a pass transistor, given its big tab. No problem there. But at the extreme left and right there are two eight pin IC's (U1 and U2). That's a grim sign, because simple switch closure data over the wires wouldn't require multiple IC's. I'm really overreaching in my analysis based on a single photo, but I'm guessing those IC's are indeed encoding the switch data in some way. I know Medallion has at least one patent on a sort of "Medallion-Net" interconnection scheme to wire up multiple components on a Medallion-based helm, and these IC's may be encoding the switch data in conformance with that. Again, this is just a guess based on extremely limited data.

Travis: That touchpad plugs into a wiring harness, right? Not straight into a black box? If so, Tige provided that wiring harness and they will have drawings for it. I'd contact Harvey at Tige and ask for a copy of that wiring harness drawing. It will likely have signals identified on the various wires, which would go a LONG way toward helping us figure this out. This is old enough in their product line that they won't be revealing anything that hurts their current lineup by sharing that data.

Just trying to help out in the absence of hard data on the subject in question....

[IDBoating]

I wasn't sure if the 2007/2008 had Medallion hardware or not.

I'm not sure either, but I'd say the odds are pretty good. Once they got that touchpad working with the under-dash stuff they likely remained as a "group". Not a guarantee, but usually how such things go.

A photo from under his dash would help answer that, eh? {Travis, that's a hint }

[Timmy!]

I wasn't sure if the 2007/2008 had Medallion hardware or not.