tige problem

[lee]

The transmision gets the Dextron and the v-drive gets Omala 68.

[mtnsmith]

What is Omala 68, some sort of gear oil???

[lee]

Yes. It is made by Shell.

[FIC]

I trash our 20i 6.0l with a hurth trans. on the ski team boat that we use in competition , and every sat. night ski show plus tues. night practice . We have used it going on 4 seasons. They appear to be strong enough.

[anhaney]

Which Oil

Trans is just like a TRUCK or CAR Trans take the Dextron III. The V-Drive takes the other.

[dougofkc]

digging your nose?

I've always had this feature with wakeboard/ski boats. They chop the nose low so you can see over them at lower speeds. I do it accidently sometimes, othertimes to get revenge or see the girls up front cold and wet

My buddy brandon C. gave me a tip that works awesome; when your coming up to your rollers nose first, give the boat some reverse so your not plowing thorugh. You'll roll over everytime. Or take my dealers advice and fun it before you drive under the rollers to produce a tidal wave over your passengers. Only use this second technique if you want a foot of water in the entire floor of your boat. One last note, if you find yourself with a foot of water in your boat: shut off the engine until the bilge pumps it lower than your engine belts... Good luck in that chilly winter water!

I have been having this problem with my 2006 20v where I will be wakesurfing and after a while the boat will just slow down for a while and even though we have it at full throttle will not speed up. Has anyone else been having this problem??? at first we thought it was a cruise control problem but we turned the cruise control off and every once and a while have the same problem.

[anhaney]

They Test Every Time

Tige claims they water test every boat for one hour. I doubt that is really happening based on what you guys are having problems with!!!!

If you have any doubts about them lake testing every boat, you should go the the factory for a tour. I was in Texas on business and stopped to visit the factory. Andrew Reyes showed me the whole thing. And I can assure you NOT ONE (1) boat leaves that factory with out beining lake tested. Then after the lake test and about twenty other walk arounds prior to the lake test they check the boat one more time for gel coat nicks or damage then repair it if any before they leave the factory. After visiting the factory I have no boubts that the work is done correctly when leaving the factory. I also understand that these boats are built by human beings and as much as they try to make it perfect somtimes somthing may happen that was not intened to happen. That is why they have the warranties they have. But I feel every TIGE owner should tour the factory. You will love your boat that much more after the visit.

[Matt Garcia]

If you have any doubts about them lake testing every boat, you should go the the factory for a tour. I was in Texas on business and stopped to visit the factory. Andrew Reyes showed me the whole thing. And I can assure you NOT ONE (1) boat leaves that factory with out beining lake tested. Then after the lake test and about twenty other walk arounds prior to the lake test they check the boat one more time for gel coat nicks or damage then repair it if any before they leave the factory. After visiting the factory I have no boubts that the work is done correctly when leaving the factory. I also understand that these boats are built by human beings and as much as they try to make it perfect somtimes somthing may happen that was not intened to happen. That is why they have the warranties they have. But I feel every TIGE owner should tour the factory. You will love your boat that much more after the visit.

Agreed on the factory tour, everytime I am up there I feel like a kid wondering around in a big toy warehouse. Seeing the boats being built and finished is a cool experience, you have a much greater respect for the man/woman hours and work that goes in to each boat. I especially like the R&D room, seing the new hull molds is cool (RZ2 and RZ4).

[wannabewakeboarder]

Agreed on the factory tour, everytime I am up there I feel like a kid wondering around in a big toy warehouse. Seeing the boats being built and finished is a cool experience, you have a much greater respect for the man/woman hours and work that goes in to each boat. I especially like the R&D room, seing the new hull molds is cool (RZ2 and RZ4).

can you maybe snap a few pics of the molds and or the boats comming out of the molds

[dougofkc]

love my Tige, no...

<rant> At the risk of offending many of this sites users, I must confess, I do not love my Tige. I've owned many boats and recently a 20i and now a 22V. I made the purchase decision because they seemed to offer the best value. We drove many boats and rode behind many. Both Tige's easily out manuevered the competition, and offered more space but in the end the quality sacrifices compared to other boats are painfully obvious. We feel that Tige does a good job on the fundamentals but truly lacks in fit and finish. The wake is weak even with TAPS, but I felt I could adjust with ballast... 2200lbs of ballast and countless hours building it in + $ for materials and the wake is still marginal compared to comparable Malibu, SAN, and MC wakes similarily weighted. Perhaps we are hard on the boat putting 250+ hrs per season on it... Nonetheless we've replaced the seats twice, had countless motor work done (we had the same issue posted on this site with the engine mysteriously dieing after running a few hours) The tower bolts are as tight as they get yet the thing shakes like its about to fall off the boat, the board racks wallered out of their sockets and had to be tapped and through bolted, dont even get me started on electrical... $55K just doesnt buy what it used too. I like my Tige and have fun with it but there is no love... </rant>

If you have any doubts about them lake testing every boat, you should go the the factory for a tour. I was in Texas on business and stopped to visit the factory. Andrew Reyes showed me the whole thing. And I can assure you NOT ONE (1) boat leaves that factory with out beining lake tested. Then after the lake test and about twenty other walk arounds prior to the lake test they check the boat one more time for gel coat nicks or damage then repair it if any before they leave the factory. After visiting the factory I have no boubts that the work is done correctly when leaving the factory. I also understand that these boats are built by human beings and as much as they try to make it perfect somtimes somthing may happen that was not intened to happen. That is why they have the warranties they have. But I feel every TIGE owner should tour the factory. You will love your boat that much more after the visit.

[chpthril]

Wow, I hate to see this. I too have had some issues but love my tige.
Your profile says you have an 03, did you buy new?
I'm not an expert on ballast so what do you mean by "the wake is weak", and what do have TAPS set at and what distance you ride? Did you add weight in increments or go right to 2200?

What powerplant to you have, Tower and Racks?
Did these issues occure over time and get corrected by your dealer, or did the boat suffer from "warrentyitis" and go all at once?

Sometimes one can learn more from a negative than a positive. Thanks for answering.

[dougofkc]

More complaints/details

We bought the Tige new in Dec 2003 with the PCM 330 Exc. The engine problems started our first weekend out and the boat was in the shop nearly every weekend for a couple months. I got extremely frustrated and called Tige direct and they advised me to take it up with PCM as they were not responsible for the engines. After several trips to the shop they dealer found recalls on the PCM. He assured me that all the problems were now resolved and we went off on a week long adventure with several friends 5 hours from home. Boat coughed sputtered, choked all freakin week. Although they covered all my shop cost, it was a huge pain in the *** to say the least, not to mention devestating that our new boat didn't run any better than our last one (also a Tige). From day one, the situation spiralled down hill. The dealer assured me that the fuel gauge issues were resolved. Reading this post they still exist today! I had issues with the fuel cool set up just as others did on this post, I have issues with water sitting with no place to go under seats and in storage compartments when we get a big splash, I had electrical issues with my last tige but was assured that the new ones were a "fussless design" there are freakin fuses all over the place with no schematics provided or even available from the factory. Since I'm still complaining I have to mention the design of the fresh water impeller and placement. Its nearly impossible to hold prime on this sucker and we had it in the shop countless times trying to reroute hoses to get it to hold. My seats seem to like to pull apart at the stitches after only a month or so of heavy use. Tige replaced under warrenty a few times but now its up. I paid out of pocket for new skins for the 07 season and hope to hell they hold up better. (we keep them soaked in Arospace protectant if you are curious, still doesnt help with stitches tearing through) The little things that become big problems... The front seats are screwed into the fiberglass as opposed to through bolted. when the holes waller out as they did on mine the seats wont close right, flip up on the road and bust all to pieces on the highway behind you...
The tower is a Tige Tower black powder coated. Distinct features are rubber inserts in the back alloweing fold without loosening bolts. the top center pieces are square stock. The board racks are two board aluminum tige factory racks with the 1 screw quick release. This tower is the single biggest piece of junk on the entire boat. You would think something simple as tubing would be easy to get solid.

The ballast: I'll admit we are obsessed with wakeboarding, the hunt for the perfect wake, etc. I've experimented with all possible combos of weight, weight placement, taps etc. I've built my TAPS system in and have a 700Lbs Vbag in the nose/under front seats, a 400 lb bag under the walkthrough floor, 150 lbs where the cooler used to be for when its just the wife and I, and 1200 in the back/middle. i found the wake much better pushing the back weight as close to the front as I could. The system is powered by 8 tsunami pumps and fills in about 5 minutes and dumps in 10-15ish. We ride at 22.5 on the perfect pass wakeboard pro and at a 70'rope with 6' handle. This seems to be the optimal wake (we measured) To produce a wake comparable to the Nautique 210 with 1100lbs ballast, I need the above setup with taps on 1 and my bags full with another 1200 laying on the floor in the nose. I seldom need to do this as we have people in the boat. that help add weight. Interesting to note that right turns are nearly impossible with the boat weighted like this (extreme I know) For surf I keep 400 in the nose under deck and 600 on the side the surfer is riding. I will note that the surf wake at 9.8 MPH is the biggest, longest, smoothest wake behind any boat ive ever been behind. Unfortunately the exhaust is so freakin loud its a head ache to ride that close. Is anyone else surprise by how loud their Tige is compared to other wake boats? Would be nice to hear that $2500 audio system occasionally!

Despite these issues we do seem to have a smooth running ship now. My friends joke that if anyone wants to buy a TIge they should buy mine because we've fixed all the **** that was poorly designed/crafted.

2007 will be my first season since the warranty expired. Its also our year to buy a new boat. After owning 2 of them, I doubt we will even testdrive a Tige this year.

If I sound jadded I am. My wife and I are passionate about the sport and take extremely good care of our equipment. When you pay so much for this stuff and baby it and it still falls apart its a miserable experience. We thought we got a lemon, but after spending lots of time reading post on this web site it seems that every issue we have had others have endured the same BS, even on the currently shipping 06 models!! Makes me wonder why Tige does not fix this stuff. We hit most of the lakes in the midwest and I bet thousands have seen our boat getting towed or parked in the cove with the hood up. Not a good selling point for Tige... We are decent riders and there are usually lots of people who come up just to chat anyway. How many Tige boats would sell if people saw the crazy stuff we pull and see a rock solid boat without a bunch of bags all over the floor or boards flying off the tower rack and all... Maybe all the boats suck and I'm dreaming that anything could withstand our regiment.

Wow, I hate to see this. I too have had some issues but love my tige.
Your profile says you have an 03, did you buy new?
I'm not an expert on ballast so what do you mean by "the wake is weak", and what do have TAPS set at and what distance you ride? Did you add weight in increments or go right to 2200?

What powerplant to you have, Tower and Racks?
Did these issues occure over time and get corrected by your dealer, or did the boat suffer from "warrentyitis" and go all at once?

Sometimes one can learn more from a negative than a positive. Thanks for answering.

[FIC]

When you change boats this year which brand do you think you will be switching to . I owned a CC prior to my tige it was a PCM same as yours and it gave me problems in the first 25 hrs, I was very dissapointed with the interior , and I had several electronic problems , 3 sets of guages key pad failure , battery cable failure, ballast pump , and main breaker box failure.

[dougofkc]

which boat is next?

I'm looking at the new Nautique 210's (finally wider) the XStar, Malibu VLX 23, and the Gravity Games Supra. The supras makes one hell of a rampy wake and comes with 2500lbs built in but its low price point makes me worry that there will be serious quality issues... Tricked to the hill the Supra is only $58K compared to the others which are well over $70K

When you change boats this year which brand do you think you will be switching to . I owned a CC prior to my tige it was a PCM same as yours and it gave me problems in the first 25 hrs, I was very dissapointed with the interior , and I had several electronic problems , 3 sets of guages key pad failure , battery cable failure, ballast pump , and main breaker box failure.

[FIC]

Because of our ski team and the business were in I get to drive and use a wide varity of boats. Skiers choice builds the supra which is the same company that builds the moomba, I havent seen to many problems with there boats , Im not that impressed with ride or comfort. The CC are ok but use a lot more fuel and again dont ride, or perform as well as other comparables. The MC performs fairly well a little tough to steer when fully loaded especially on a left side double up. Malibu performs well just tends not to be as dependable as far as hardware comeing loose or off in some cases, they turn well in both directions, only other problem I have with the malibu is takeing on water, lots of leaks. Hope this helps.