2015 Tige Z3 TAPs 3 to GSA

[Germaine Marine]

Thanks for the info.

Did you buy the GSA system from Germaine Marine? or did you buy it seperatley and have them install it? I have a 15' Z3, so I already have the Lenco actuators, so am just guess I'll need the plates and then the software update? I called them a few months back and they quoted me $4,000 to switch to TAPS3, I just wondering if the GSA conversion would be less $. Thanks

Who did you talk to? Give me a ring maybe I can help. 714-306-3999

[myksbmw]

Who did you talk to? Give me a ring maybe I can help. 714-306-3999

I just called the American Fork location, asked for the “service” department asked them. I’ll give you a call, I’d appreciate any Assistance. Thanks

[myksbmw]

You may already have TAPS 3 on your screen. Go into dealer mode and see if you can switch between AVX and TAPS3 (don't actually do it). Next thing to do is check your actuators. They need to be the 2 1/4" travel units, not the 4" travel units. Not sure what AVX came with. After that you just need the new tabs and install. Really pretty easy.
Since you're local, I could help if you want/need it.

Thanks for the info, I’ll check the travel length on the actuators. Thanks for offering to help. Have you done the GSA conversion on your boat?

[UNSTUCK]

Thanks for the info, I’ll check the travel length on the actuators. Thanks for offering to help. Have you done the GSA conversion on your boat?

I've built a few of these types of systems. Here's the one I did this spring:

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...9-TAPS-21-v2-0

Honestly the wave keeps getting better. Really has made surfing fun again.

[bsreid]

I’ve probably said this a million times now but GSA tabs are impressive. The z3 with GSA is even more impressive than any other boat I’ve been on with the tabs. Just so much adjustment and clean waves to surf. Rzx3 is still a bigger beast but the z3 is super clean.

[D&P Powell]

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[Bamer]

I’ve probably said this a million times now but GSA tabs are impressive. The z3 with GSA is even more impressive than any other boat I’ve been on with the tabs. Just so much adjustment and clean waves to surf. Rzx3 is still a bigger beast but the z3 is super clean.

I need you to convince my wife why is we should spend $1500 or so to convert my 2019 R23. Kinda frustrating to buy a year model early before a big update like this. Lol


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[chpthril]

Kinda frustrating to buy a year model early before a big update like this. Lol

The next "big thing" is always around the corner. if its not surf tabs, its this or that. If you keep waiting, you'll never buy. If you beat yourself up once you see the new model feature, you'll never enjoy the boat you got.

[Germaine Marine]

The next "big thing" is always around the corner. if its not surf tabs, its this or that. If you keep waiting, you'll never buy. If you beat yourself up once you see the new model feature, you'll never enjoy the boat you got.

100 percent on the nose.

[cnote]

I need you to convince my wife why is we should spend $1500 or so to convert my 2019 R23. Kinda frustrating to buy a year model early before a big update like this. Lol


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yes, this. i am about ready to do it, but the one thing before i pull the trigger is if anyone can verify is if switch to gsa tabs lets me weight evenly for a clean wave on both sides for transfers or instant side switch without adjusting water or people. that's the one thing that bums me about taps 3 post-actuator move. i have to list to the surf side, enough so that transfers are not possible if you want a clean wave on both sides. it's awesome surfing one side or the other with correct pitch & roll, just the convenience and flexibility factor which was a big selling point of taps 3 for this hull is no longer there.

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[bsreid]

My buddies z3 we weight the boat 100% even no listing or moving lead or anything. Might have a couple people move but it’s still clean without.

[UNSTUCK]

Seems odd that post actuator move you lost the clean transfer. Your tabs didn’t move. Maybe they now need to be set at a different surf number than what you're used to.

[cnote]

I've tried multiple surf settings with even weight, from 7 on down. nothing but wash if i don't list the boat with ballast. just seems like taps3 doesn't push over enough to get ideal pitch and roll.

i am now running 1200# lead (pretty much all in the back) on top of full rear water and formerly ~50/50 in front (now 85/25), 11 mph, surf 4, taps 3 or 4. some of that weight - whether people or inanimate ballast - has to be moved to the surf side to get list underway at 5-6°. you say taps plates didn't move, but i can't duplicate the wave i had last year weighted evenly like last year. same surf settings. do you think all the extra weight is affecting taps ability to do its job? is it possible i have the wrong actuators and they're not moving as far as they should?

another thing i see on an adjacent topic here is people have to run 12mph + with gsa to clean that wave. wow, that's fast. the fastest we'll go is 11.4 and that's with a longboard. that has to ramp up your rpms and thereby fuel consumption, right?

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[D&P Powell]

another thing i see on an adjacent topic here is people have to run 12mph + with gsa to clean that wave

We do NOT run at 12 with GSA to clean the wave. We can run anywhere from 10.8 to 12.2 and have a clean wave. I prefer it around 11.2 - 11.4.

[UNSTUCK]

you say taps plates didn't move, but i can't duplicate the wave i had last year weighted evenly like last year. same surf settings. do you think all the extra weight is affecting taps ability to do its job? is it possible i have the wrong actuators and they're not moving as far as they should?

another thing i see on an adjacent topic here is people have to run 12mph + with gsa to clean that wave. wow, that's fast. the fastest we'll go is 11.4 and that's with a longboard. that has to ramp up your rpms and thereby fuel consumption, right?

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Any amount of ballast wont affect the actuator's ability to put the tab into position. I don't believe your actuators were changed out with the update. Should just be the 2 1/4" travel. What did change is the mounting locations. This could affect the tab angle you needed for the perfect transfer wave. Lets say you surfed at setting #4 and it was perfect. That number equaled something like 12 degrees down on the tab (I don't know what the number was). With your new mounting location your #4 setting now puts the tab angle at, say, 11 degrees, instead of the original 12 which gives you an imperfect transfer wave. Setting #3 gives you 13 degrees and setting #5 gives you 9 degrees down. So now there is no way to get to the magic 12 degrees that you used to have. Unless you took measurements before the update, you really have no way of knowing where the tab angle needs to be. If you did take measurements, maybe you can adjust a mount position to get it back to where you need it to be.