2014 Tige Z1. Deal or no deal?

[JohnnieMo]

I agree with Dandy. I don't notice the boat being too tippy at surf speeds, but if you empty the ballast and get it up over 20MPH, it will want to lean to one side a lot. If it is just me in the boat, I need to offset my own weight with ballast on the opposite side to run level. Fairly annoying.

That said, I've had the boat for 3 years and I intend to keep it for at least 7 more. So happy customer here. I do intend to pursue a home made surf system this fall though.

[Dandy]

I had a '13 Z1 and agree with the tippy comments. I contributed this mainly to the deep v hull. Compared to a flatter bottom boat, with the deep v, the hull has the ability to rock from side to side easier. For the record, the I/O boat that we had before the Z1 was also very tippy, again a deep v designed hull. Now, our little 15' Boston Whaler, which is a very flat bottom boat, this thing is extremely stable with very little movement from side to side...flat bottomed boat, no axis to rotate on. The plus of the deep v is a better ride as it breaks the waves instead of completely bouncing over them and because it is deeper in the water it displaces more water which is why Tiges and Centurions (even earlier years) can make a great surf wave....deep v hulls. I strongly consider a test drive. On the '13s the boat would tend to "chine lock", if memory serves me correctly it would just be to the right. When this happens, you can turn the wheel and the boat really will not turn, you have to back off the throttle to break the "suction" and then it will turn fine. It happened to us more at cruising speed. Best of luck....take a test drive.

[D&P Powell]

We do love it! I would do it all over again. A bigger (Z3 or RZX) newer boat with Taps3 would be even better... but that's not in my budget.

[jzig211]

Not common from my experience (I owned a Direct Drive before this boat), but again, I dont believe its enough to cause concern. Yes, tippy at high speeds with empty ballast. Test drive any Z1, it wont take long to notice. Again, it's really no big deal in my opinion... but it really bothers some people.

I see you have a 2014 Z1. Do you love it?


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[D&P Powell]

Not common from my experience (I owned a Direct Drive before this boat), but again, I dont believe its enough to cause concern. Yes, tippy at high speeds with empty ballast. Test drive any Z1, it wont take long to notice. Again, it's really no big deal in my opinion... but it really bothers some people.

[jzig211]

Is that common in certain inboards? What causes it to be so sensitive? Are y'all referring to it being tippy even with empty ballast?


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[D&P Powell]

In addition to what JLG said above, the Z1 can be a little weight sensitive at higher speeds. If youre doing 15-20 across the lake in a little chop, you'll never notice... but if youre doing 30 in calm waters first thing in the morning, you will notice right away. You just have to adjust people a little, no big deal.

[JLG]

X10 on the in person water test before purchasing!! Run it through its paces and move around in it to see if the weight sensitivity will be an issue for you. The Z1 is a great boat and for that price if it checks out I'd say you are getting a great boat.

[JLG]

[QUOTE=jzig211;762656]I keep hearing this word "tippy". Can someone paint me a picture of what is being described as "tippy".


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By "tippy" they are referring to how the boat handles when a person in boat shifts sides of the boat while under way and it changes the wave, usually causing it to wash a little. It also may require you to move ppl in correct spots in boat if surfing, or wakeboarding, or even slalom skiing to get the wake perfect. It isn't anything that will make the boat unsafe, just tends to be a nuisance for some, as it will effect the wake accuracy if you were to have several ppl on board and allow them to move around.

The larger z3 is less "tippy" then the Z1 but doubt it will be an issue for you if only surfing with a small crew that doesn't move around. I don't like ppl moving around when boat is underway anyway so not an issue for me.

[jzig211]

I keep hearing this word "tippy". Can someone paint me a picture of what is being described as "tippy".


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[myers]

I know you like the boat. However, test drive some of the other Tige's out there. I had my heart set on a Z1 when i was shopping. Like a previous person said it and Z3 were "tippy" I went and tested a RZR in the same price point, and my wife I liked the boat ride and all around wave more. The dealer then took us out in a RZ2, and wifey liked the size of that one even more. Lucky for me it had surf ballast and VX on it, but now we have a baby I am just struggling to find a chance to even use mine. What ever you get dont listen to use you have to be the one to live with it we just get to see post. I am out of Birmingham and go to Smith Lake. When you made first post I thought that was the exact same boat I saw when i went to pick mine up from being serviced last year, and they told me transmission was being replaced.

[Z3CO23]

I would insist on a water test. Not the test at delivery but an extensive water test prior so you can get a chance to sit in the driver seat and run it through RPM's.

[jzig211]

***UPDATE***
I spoke with the dealership selling this boat this morning. Here is what the dealer told me. "Gibbs previous dealer was clueless and did everything but fix the actual problem. Prop shaft and transmission was replaced for nothing because that wasn't the problem. " the dealer said because everything is electronic now they had to replace the throttle. He says that fixed the revving issue that Gibbs was having. He says that's all it was.

I did see where somebody mentioned that to Gibbs in his old thread, but sounds like his dealer was wack.

For what it's worth this dealer seems pretty honest and reputable.

They told me they would extend me a warranty and that it should anything go wrong they would take care of it. Although he feels pretty confident that I have nothing to really worry about.

Thoughts???


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[Z3CO23]

That has been somewhat of my thought process. Is it crazy that I found Gibbs on Facebook and sent him a message asking him if we could talk? I typed his name on Facebook and found a photo of his boat that Tigé had tagged him

He's on the malibu forum: themalibucrew.com and the axis forum as well. He's posted as recent as last week.

[jzig211]

But..... Gibbs had problems right off the bat when putting in the water. So if you put it in the water now and ran it flat out for a few hours and couldn't duplicate his problems I would say it's safe to assume they finnaly fixed them. So then you wheel and deal a bit with the salesmen and then think about it overnight. Then the next day you just happen to find his thread and go back to the salesmen with great concern. Wheel and deal some more.

That has been somewhat of my thought process. Is it crazy that I found Gibbs on Facebook and sent him a message asking him if we could talk? I typed his name on Facebook and found a photo of his boat that Tigé had tagged him.



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