2014 Tige Z1. Deal or no deal?

[UNSTUCK]

But..... Gibbs had problems right off the bat when putting in the water. So if you put it in the water now and ran it flat out for a few hours and couldn't duplicate his problems I would say it's safe to assume they finnaly fixed them. So then you wheel and deal a bit with the salesmen and then think about it overnight. Then the next day you just happen to find his thread and go back to the salesmen with great concern. Wheel and deal some more.

[ICEMANFTR]

Not worth the risk. I also read Gibbs thread and it was a lemon.


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[D&P Powell]

jzig211 - You asked for our opinion, so I will give you mine, for what it's worth. I would keep searching for another Z1, even if you have to make a longer drive to get it. They are out there! This specific boat would cause me enough concern to pass.

[Z3CO23]

The boat was listed for sale by current dealer on 8/27/2015 and Indmar is saying transmission was replaced October 2015. That's why I was curious.

Ok....... I reread that other thread.

In the thread, Gibbs claims the transmission replacement, motor realignment and pro shaft replacement were all done in late June/early July. Gibbs claims to have the boat back after the fixes and when he gets it back on the water the same issues he was having before still exist.

Gibbs says he contacts Tige and they tell him they are at a loss on what to do and tell him to contact Indamar to fix. He contacts Indmar and they tell him to let the Malibu dealer look at it. Gibbs says he is pretty much sick of dealing with it and wants to trade it in for another manufacturer.

Gibbs ends the thread with saying he traded the Z1 in at the Malibu dealer and orders a T23 in July 2015.

If your being told there was a prop shaft and a transmission in September/October then there's only once conclusion:

The boats had a third transmission put in and a 3rd prop shaft or one of the stories is not correct.

[jzig211]

The transmission was replaced on that boat.... according to Gibbs in the thread (sound like it was done by the Tige dealer). Gibbs got the boat back and still had problems. He said he brought it back in and the dealer (again sounds like Tige dealer) told him something about the motor and or motor mounts not being aligned correctly from the factory. Gibbs said the dealer told him is was fixed and when he got it back on the water apparently it wasn't. (according to him)

The previous thread ended with Gibbs saying he had traded it for a T23........ it's unknown what the dealer your dealing with knows about or fixed.....

If your going to go forward with the deal I would water test it like you stole it. Load it up with ballast, throttle at different rpms.... etc.

The boat was listed for sale by current dealer on 8/27/2015 and Indmar is saying transmission was replaced October 2015. That's why I was curious.

[Z3CO23]

****quick update****
I took your advice and used the boat and engines serial # to check to see what had been done on this boat.

I first called Tigé. The only notes they had on the boat was that a new prop shaft was ordered on 9/21/2015.

I then contacted Indmar to check on the transmission. They told me that the transmission appeared to have been replaced in October 2015 and has a warranty on the new transmission through April 2017. I'm curious if the dealer in which the boat was traded to replaced it or Gibbs.

Yalls thoughts???? Enlighten of this information would the boat still be worth pursuing. I'm in a pickle because I fell in love with the boat, but trying to not let my heart out weigh my brain.


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The transmission was replaced on that boat.... according to Gibbs in the thread (sound like it was done by the Tige dealer). Gibbs got the boat back and still had problems. He said he brought it back in and the dealer (again sounds like Tige dealer) told him something about the motor and or motor mounts not being aligned correctly from the factory. Gibbs said the dealer told him is was fixed and when he got it back on the water apparently it wasn't. (according to him)

The previous thread ended with Gibbs saying he had traded it for a T23........ it's unknown what the dealer your dealing with knows about or fixed.....

If your going to go forward with the deal I would water test it like you stole it. Load it up with ballast, throttle at different rpms.... etc.

[jzig211]

****quick update****
I took your advice and used the boat and engines serial # to check to see what had been done on this boat.

I first called Tigé. The only notes they had on the boat was that a new prop shaft was ordered on 9/21/2015.

I then contacted Indmar to check on the transmission. They told me that the transmission appeared to have been replaced in October 2015 and has a warranty on the new transmission through April 2017. I'm curious if the dealer in which the boat was traded to replaced it or Gibbs.

Yalls thoughts???? Enlighten of this information would the boat still be worth pursuing. I'm in a pickle because I fell in love with the boat, but trying to not let my heart out weigh my brain.


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[D&P Powell]

jzig211 - I agree with the previous recommendations. As far as pricing, and provided you find out all the work needed on it is complete, I think you are in the right price range. I might even recommend driving the price a little lower with these findings. We bought our 2014 new for close to your average price listed above. We are VERY happy with it so far. The only downside we have experienced has been documented a little bit in this forum... the boat is a little weight sensitive from side to side and "tippy", as some have put it, at higher speeds. We have just learned how to adjust our passengers to make it work. Please keep us updated, as many of us have followed the threads on this particular boat.

[Dandy]

I'm almost positive it is the same boat. Dealer told me the guy traded it in for an axis. How serious were the issues Gibbs was having with it?


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Any issue can be resolved if it was handled properly and the manufacturers were willing to cover the issue properly. I would do as kodiak suggests and see if you can get the service/warranty records. In addition, if you bring up the issues now that you know about it, maybe you can get the dealer to throw in one of the "fantastic" extended warranties they offer. This would at least cover potential issues, but like Gibbs, warranty doesn't keep you on the water.

[kodiak ak]

Get the boats vin#. Then contact Tige and ask what warranty work has been done to it.

[jzig211]

I'm almost positive it is the same boat. Dealer told me the guy traded it in for an axis. How serious were the issues Gibbs was having with it?


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[Dandy]

I would be shocked if that is not Gibbs old boat from the thread. The odds of someone putting together that same color scheme, including the lime green VX and platform....and being from TN....seems slim to me. The only way of that happening in my eyes would be for the dealer to order in several of the same boat.

Best of luck to you. It is a really nice looking boat. We had a '13 Z1 with the VX and it put out a real nice surf wave. '14 was somewhat an odd year for Tige and a few other mfgs as it was the 1 year that they ran Indmar. Truth be told, I feel bad for the dealers with there being different parts to stock for one model year.

Best of luck and keep everyone posted. Too many posts go on without being followed up on.

[jzig211]

And thank you guys for sharing that thread with me.


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[jzig211]

Wow. Very similar. I sent Gibbs a message. Hopefully I will hear back from him soon. I joined this forum not thinking much. Glad I did. May have just saved my ***.

Hypothetically though. If this isn't the same boat and nothing is wrong with it. Is 64k a good deal?


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[bsreid]

This boat is way too similar looking to the one is this thread http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...y-with-my-Boat
The registration numbers even look the same, the guy who possibly had this boat traded it in at a Malibu dealer around that area, so they probably want it gone.

Even if they say it's fixed, don't bother taking the risk.