No Maintenance since 2009...

[JohnnieMo]

I looked long and hard at a 2011 22ve in Alabama with about 60 hours and I think he sold it for around $56k. I felt that was a very good price. That was last spring.

I think this is a fair price but not a great price.

[sotyphoon415]

i might be able to get into another 2009 22ve with 102 hrs on it for 40k. Its not as clean and does not have the rims on trailer (not that I care about those) or the upgraded sound system. It does have a heater though...not sure if thats a good or bad thing though.

The only thing I dont really like about it is the color...its a maroon color scheme. Supposedly a one boat run, as in its the only one that color made. I like that its rare but Im not in love with the color.. I almost wonder if I would regret getting it.

[robert theisen]

If you don't like the color,you probably won't grow fond of it later. The sound system is a very important part of having fun on a boat.The heater,depending on where you live,is nice for cool mornings. I would guess 45k sounds like a fair deal,but you could look it up on NADA. As far as gelcoat i would go with the one that was better cared for. It will be an indication of the care that was given to the boat.

[boardman74]

48K is pretty high IMO. I wouldn't call that a deal at all. Thats top of the market.

[Ewok]

The low hours without proper storage means your probably going to have some issues with the fuel system. The sellers honesty is great but your probably going to have to change the fuel filter at least twice the first month you own it. Maybe some fuel varnish in the fuel pumps or injectors. The interior may not have gotten any love either, same for the gelcoat and the batteries might give out on you early as well. Low hours does not equate to good condition like low miles do on a car.

[talltigeguy]

It has the Z tower and upgraded Wet Sounds system. Has trailer with the nice rims for that year. Not sure of gel coat. Boat is def clean and it should be at 51.5 hours. The price we agreed on was 48K...I thought it was a "fair" deal. Not a steal, but a deal.

Yay or nay to that?

Me likey!!!!

The marroon is a great looking color. They made a couple in 2006ish, as my work partner has a marroon and tan boat that is stunning. I am sure they stopped it by 2009, so it for sure is a one of a kind color.

That boat would have went for 65K in 2009 if they guy was a good negotiator. Once you get through some of the low hour issues like was mentioned above, I think it is worth a look, but not a steal by any means.

I think they refer to boats that haven't been used as having 'lot rot'. It can be as bad as having been a very high hours boat.

[sotyphoon415]

Thanks for all the replys!

I always hear about when things sit its very bad for them...however Ive yet to experiance it myself. I had another boat with crazy low hours that ran like new even after it sat for years. I had a car that sat most of its life and ran perfect. I have a Cummins that sits all winter, has never touched a rain drop or mud etc its whole life, 40,000 miles and its an 07, only use it to tow camper or boat. My point in saying all this is I have never had a problem with those few experiances Ive had. Def not saying it cant happen though and I agree with all of your concerns BUT has "lot rot" ever effected any of yall? Or has it been just things you have heard from others?

I know Im kinda answering my OP question in a way...I guess Im just looking for yalls personal problems with boats you could of bought or stored in this way. Its hard to spen that kind of money without asking others oppinions!

Also I know 48k is not the best price and yea I wish the guy was more reasonable but these are the cards Im dealt to get this boat. The way I see it as far as price goes is it is hard to find another 2009 with the options/colors I like with low hours like that SO maybe it is worth the extra 3k??

Lets hear it guys, I appreciate all your insite!!!

Thanks Ryan

[IDBoating]

I think they refer to boats that haven't been used as having 'lot rot'. It can be as bad as having been a very high hours boat.

The rule I've heard is that you want "average use per year". Boats and engines don't tolerate "sitting" very well. People with more engine experience than I have tell me that things like crankshaft seals will dry out and deteriorate if the engine is left sitting for long periods, even when properly winterized in the oil/fuel/water department. I would not enjoy buying a boat only to need major engine work.

I would definitely spend the money on an inspection, especially of the drivetrain, by an independent marine engine mechanic. A couple of hundred dollars now could save you thousands of dollars and many hours of frustration later.

Definitely report back on what you do and what you learn!

[Ewok]

I would also change the raw water impeller before you attempt to start the boat, you don't want those pieces clogging the cooling system.

There are several threads on here with others in you situation that bought a boat that sat for a long time. I bought a 1 year leftover and the batteries failed on my prematurely. Many other threads on here about fuel system issues from boats sitting too long without treated fuel. I always use marine stabil in my boat at every fill up. I never know when work will send me away and if your going to do nothing to help with storing, stabilizer in the gas is the easiest and cheapest insurance.

The gel coat and interior are just cosmetic things that are relatively easy to clean up as a DIY project, but engine issues due to improper storage pop up on this website quite frequently. And in every case, the engines always run fine until they quit working. We are just trying to give you information to make a smart and informed decision. Ultimately it's up to you to determine if it's a good deal for you. Good luck, hope she works out for you.

[IDBoating]

I would also change the raw water impeller before you attempt to start the boat, you don't want those pieces clogging the cooling system.

x2 on this recommendation. Having an impeller come apart and pieces go into the block is one of my worst nightmares.

In fact, I would plan on doing a complete "winterization service" of new impeller, ALL new fuel filters, LOF, the works. And if it was me I'd also do a decarboning using a strong solution of Seafoam which would also clean the fuel lines, fuel rail, and injectors.

[talltigeguy]

I've been blessed to never have an impeller go bad on me. I always thought that the shredded impeller parts would get stuck in a screen that is supposed to be in the transmission cooler. Are there some boats that have a screen at the next accessible hose clamp?

And as far as 'lot rot'... it is probably true that the idea is perpetuated a lot by people who are trying to sell 'fresh' new boats. It seems that we see threads on these sites about people with unusual problems in older but very low hour boats with some regularity. We probably never hear about the people who buy a low hour older boat and don't have any problems.

[Stingreye]

I've been blessed to never have an impeller go bad on me. I always thought that the shredded impeller parts would get stuck in a screen that is supposed to be in the transmission cooler. Are there some boats that have a screen at the next accessible hose clamp?

And as far as 'lot rot'... it is probably true that the idea is perpetuated a lot by people who are trying to sell 'fresh' new boats. It seems that we see threads on these sites about people with unusual problems in older but very low hour boats with some regularity. We probably never hear about the people who buy a low hour older boat and don't have any problems.

I also wonder how many low hour boats are really low hours. The gauges seem to reset randomly on some older boats and I am not sure how many people get the computer read.

[IDBoating]

I've been blessed to never have an impeller go bad on me. I always thought that the shredded impeller parts would get stuck in a screen that is supposed to be in the transmission cooler.

My 24Ve's water routing has the transmission cooler UPSTREAM of the impeller. In other words, the impeller draws a vacuum that pulls the water through the transmission cooler. If the impeller fragments, it will go with the pump's output water straight into the engine block.

My sequence for cooling water is: Thruhull -> raw water filter -> V-drive -> transmission cooler -> raw water pump with impeller -> rest of engine (including the traditional circulating pump on the front of the engine, which means my engine has two belt-driven water pumps).

[sotyphoon415]

WABoating, what engine is in your boat? I wonder if that is the same setup as the 2009 Im looking at with the 343.

I guess after the sea trial I will be convinced about the motor and trans being OK or not. Anything in this area I should look for? Were there any common issues for this model year? Obvi Im going to look for leaks and the obvious stuff after our run.

All in all I dont know of a cleaner 2009 so it might be worth the extra money IMO. Plus is there even a better all around Tige then the 22ve that can throw a killer surf wave that can be had for 48k without it being high hours or not that great of shape? Any opinions on that?

Thanks!

[IDBoating]

WABoating, what engine is in your boat? I wonder if that is the same setup as the 2009 Im looking at with the 343.

I have the PCM EX343 with CAT exhaust. Looking in the Tige manuals, my cooling plumbing is standard for this engine. I've seen various other arrangements too, but this one makes a lot of sense because it minimizes hose lengths; once the incoming water gets up to the raw water pump it stays up in the engine. If you wanted the pump upstream of the transmission cooler, you'd either need much longer hoses from the raw water pump to the transmission cooler or you'd have to relocate the transmission cooler and then have longer hoses between it and the transmission (and thus more transmission fluid).

My arrangement pulls the coolest water into the v-drive first, then the transmission, then the (presumably hotter) engine, and finally the (definitely hot) exhaust, before exiting the boat. Makes sense to me.