Budget Wakesurf Boat, Z3 Adjustability & Noseriding

[Duncan]

My flap after 100 hrs testing with the Tige R20.

Hmm, cannot see image. Can you re-post?

[topaz surfer]

Looks good Allan. What was your method to ending up with that size and shape?

[hyphen79]

I know I am a little late on this.... Work has been crazy, and I am getting caught up on threads.

The wave that Topaz throws is FANTASTIC on the goofy side! I got a chance to ride it at when a few of us TOs got together here in Northern Nevada.

After riding behind his boat I made adjustments to how I am weighting the boat. I am now riding behind my 20v at about 11.8 mph, and I find myself having to get on the brakes more often than I used to. I call my 20v the little boat that could. HAHA! Trying to get to the 12mph mark to get the wave longer without adding to much more weight.

Topaz and his crew are SURF monsters, and extremely nice! They went full tilt ALL DAY when we met up.

[topaz surfer]

Hey hyphen that was a fun day for sure. We need to do it again. Glad you are playing with your set up and getting it more dialed. Just remember the faster you go will take away some of your push. What set up are you runing now?

[hyphen79]

Hey hyphen that was a fun day for sure. We need to do it again. Glad you are playing with your set up and getting it more dialed. Just remember the faster you go will take away some of your push. What set up are you runing now?

1100# sac full in the starboard locker, port side 1100# sac filled about 20%, and all guests minus the flagger in the bow. I run taps between 2/3. I am at the point where I need to address my swim deck.

I can actually cruise without any pumping at 11.8 mph. When I push it to 12 it's a lot of work, and I loose the wave after 30 seconds or less. Haha!

Wish I wasn't a goofy rider cause my port side wave is NICE and long.

[NICKYPOO]

Wish I wasn't a goofy rider cause my port side wave is NICE and long.

So ride backside.

[hyphen79]

So ride backside.

Jerk!! Hahaha!! It's the same kind of concept like when I ride switch on my snowboard. I think about it to much, and BAM! Been trying all summer, and just can't seem to get it down.

[topaz surfer]

Jerk!! Hahaha!! It's the same kind of concept like when I ride switch on my snowboard. I think about it to much, and BAM! Been trying all summer, and just can't seem to get it down.

LOL. Yeah backside is way harder than your frontside. I wish I were better at it as well. Just need more time on the water. where have you been getting out to? Lets see some pics of your new set up.

[NICKYPOO]

LOL. Yeah backside is way harder than your frontside.

I don't about know that. It's just different. When I learned to wakesurf, I learned to wakesurf backside and continued to ride backside almost exclusively for many years. I would try frontside here and there and could do it but, just barely. I think because I had a small wave to begin with and the starboard side always had the extra driver weight so, it was always the better side. I really committed to riding frontside at the beginning of last season. Now it just feels normal and when I ride backside, it takes a few pumps up and down the face to get the "feel" back. Once found though, its just as easy.

[topaz surfer]

I don't about know that. It's just different. When I learned to wakesurf, I learned to wakesurf backside and continued to ride backside almost exclusively for many years. I would try frontside here and there and could do it but, just barely. I think because I had a small wave to begin with and the starboard side always had the extra driver weight so, it was always the better side. I really committed to riding frontside at the beginning of last season. Now it just feels normal and when I ride backside, it takes a few pumps up and down the face to get the "feel" back. Once found though, its just as easy.

Good point if that's how you learned then its not as big of a deal. Its just different and like you said might be the only side of the boat that might work for someone. I met some people this past weekend that had to ride backside because there boat doesn't make a good frontside wave foor them. So I had to give them a ride behind a tige. They were stoked. Lol.

[Duncan]

LOL. Yeah backside is way harder than your frontside.

I don't about know that. It's just different.

As in snowboarding, I think riding your heel edge on a wakesurf board is inherently less responsive than toes. The majority of frontside wakesurf riding is using your toe edge to hold the wave. Most people find they have much more finesse in the control of the toe edge because it is easier to make fine adjustments to your center of balance.

[topaz surfer]

As in snowboarding, I think riding your heel edge on a wakesurf board is inherently less responsive than toes. The majority of frontside wakesurf riding is using your toe edge to hold the wave. Most people find they have much more finesse in the control of the toe edge because it is easier to make fine adjustments to your center of balance.

I would agree with you duncan. Some people get freaked out when trying to ride backside and not being able to see the wave as easy. Also having to move your foot to the heelside edge can be a challange for some and yes less responsive.

[logangogarty]

Is there a place where there are more detailed instructions of how to make the mud flap ie material, size, shape etc? I would also appreciate instructions on how to adjust the TAPs plate. Did you have to re drill in the transom to lower the actuator mounting point? I'm a little confused but would love for my tige 22v to produce a wake like the one shown in the pictures above.