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    Wink Boat show fever .... I dont need a new boat !

    Just got a custom built z3 in july. It is absolutely my favorite boat ive ever had but........ man those all white rzx2 are sexy ! Please somebody talk me off the ledge ! Im super good in my boat but on the cusp of hours looking high if i sell it. Because its a 17 it could have been put out in late 16 so 160hrs wouldnt be bad. Anyone having trouble moving a z3? Do i have a legit argument or just trying to justfy a new rzx2?
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    Is 160 hours crazy on a year old boat.....no. But it is for sure on the high side. The average country wide is 50-75.

    So if you asking about selling that answer is yes, IMO. You are going to be selling against brand new boats with 0 hours and used 17's with 50 hours or less. Your not going to have a problem selling for the right price, but that price is going to have to be noticeable less than the boat I mentioned above.

    In my experience new boats take a 25-30% hit year one from MSRP. So if you buy at 20% off MSRP it not a bad proposition. If you paid MSRP you likely won't like the outcome. I was buying at dealer cost and upgrading yearly for free some years and some years to cost me 2-3K. If you got an average deal your probably looking at 10K or more to upgrade.
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    I’m not a very good example but if it helps your thought process I have a fully customized 2017 RZX2 one year old and I’m looking at getting into a RZX3 sooooo yeah but that’s we’re im at good luck
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    Boat show fever .... I dont need a new boat !

    What happens if you step off the treadmill for 3 years and run the hours up to 500? Do you take a bath or are the real numbers tolerable?

    You’re not going to vastly improve your surf experience with the new boat. I just wonder what the proper sequence really is, if value and surf experience are the only factors we pursue.

    I have a 2016 Supra SE with 96 hours on it. Wonder what to do next. Just LOVE the boat.

    I should sit down and figure it out. I could easily see keeping this thing for 5 years, but that’s going to be 650-800 hours. I think trading every year or two is going to be 15-20 each time.....

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    Seems like im not the only 1 in this boat , pun intended. Is the rzx2 a better wave than z3? I guess its off to only inboards to do some research! Please continue with your opinions , the different point of views really do help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langwell View Post
    Seems like im not the only 1 in this boat , pun intended. Is the rzx2 a better wave than z3? I guess its off to only inboards to do some research! Please continue with your opinions , the different point of views really do help.
    Dialed? Marginally better. If that. A dialed Z3 is an excellent wave. Surf ability comes into play much more so in a situation like this.


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    Really depends on what you are after. The experience and layout wise in an Rzx2 is drastically better then a z3. Boat feels much bigger inside despite being a foot smaller.

    Surf wave? Its lb for lb better without the hassle. Its lb for lb as good without needing to add a ton of weight. If shedding led, having a bigger boat inside with a better wave is important then I say do it.

    If not then dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    Dialed? Marginally better. If that. A dialed Z3 is an excellent wave. Surf ability comes into play much more so in a situation like this.


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    I would agree with this in a bubble. I think what you have to take into consideration is how much it takes to get a Z going to get to the dialed zone. We are talking water coming into the act lockers at rest. Where the Rzx2 can surf as good without PNP and noticeably better with PNP. The hull and weight alone outpace the Z. The question is what value do you place on the increase? Is it worth 15-20K? For some no, for me? could never go back to the Z both in terms of room and wave quality.

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    Because of the deadrise... the Z will keep taking weight and getting bigger if it werent for the boat sinking and power issues. The Rzx line will take additional weight and then get to a point where it wont get any better....

    But for example. A non PNP Rzx vs a Stock Z no lead. Its not close. 2x the wave from the Rzx.

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    There you go! This guy knows better than anyone. I yield! The few Z3s I have known do very well, more than I can surf like an expert


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    I guess really my concern would be having a 3 to 4 yr old boat with 450/600 hrs. So does anyone know the "break even point " where you dont take a bath
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    A thoughtful and objective analysis of this would be interesting.


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    If you asking at what age hours don't matter I don't think there is a good answer to that. If your a guy who puts 150 a year on a boat your going to take a harder hit than a guy who puts 50 hours a year on because thats the average. Year one is always your hardest hit. Hard if you put 50 hours on or 150.

    IMO opinion no matter if its 3 years @450 hours or 10 years @1500 hours you are going to take a harder hit than the boat with 50 hours a year. Kind of the price of use. Its going to cost you more per year of use to use it 150 hours than 50 hours, in usage cost and residual value. This is due to the fact the boat has a usable life like anything else. Every hour that ticks is closer to the end. Hours of use wear out a boat faster than calendar years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langwell View Post
    I guess really my concern would be having a 3 to 4 yr old boat with 450/600 hrs. So does anyone know the "break even point " where you dont take a bath
    I think warranty matters on a high hour late model boat. Some companies cap the warranty at a certain number of hours. I would feel pretty good about buying a 4 year old boat with 1 year of warranty with 550 hours. The same boat with 400 hours and no warranty might get hit harder on resale, despite less hours. The bigger challenge will be public perception that 500 hours is a lot of wear and tear. And there is no doubt that it is a lot more than the boats it will be compared to. So one 'break even' point is when the warranty runs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boardman74 View Post
    If you asking at what age hours don't matter I don't think there is a good answer to that. If your a guy who puts 150 a year on a boat your going to take a harder hit than a guy who puts 50 hours a year on because thats the average. Year one is always your hardest hit. Hard if you put 50 hours on or 150.

    IMO opinion no matter if its 3 years @450 hours or 10 years @1500 hours you are going to take a harder hit than the boat with 50 hours a year. Kind of the price of use. Its going to cost you more per year of use to use it 150 hours than 50 hours, in usage cost and residual value. This is due to the fact the boat has a usable life like anything else. Every hour that ticks is closer to the end. Hours of use wear out a boat faster than calendar years.
    All your points I am very familiar with—do you have an opinion on how to play the game best? I chalk up being able to put 150hrs a year on as something that’s worth more than money. That’s a thing of beauty. I am just not totally sure how to jockey the trade-in game most wisely. Wondering if someone has some hard math put toward this question.


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