taps killing the boat...

[kana12]

im not sure what section this was supposed to be in but the last two days this has happened about 5 times... i will be cruising and hit the taps up button and it will kill the engine and the loud beep will go off.. but i just turn the key off and back on and it will start right up like nothing ever happened and wont do it again for a few hours.. 2006 22v

[mneal]

Sounds like a bad connection/high resistance in the ignition circuit, when the taps runs the addition load causes the voltage to drop and shuts it off.

Wiring issues are not super easy to troubleshoot. Do you have a multi-meter?

[kana12]

no i sure dont.. the only thing that i did was add a cap to knock out the clicking in the speakers but i did that a while back and this is just starting to happen.. you think think that has anything to do with it

[skyski_tige]

I would definitely start at the cap you added.

[kko]

you have dual batteries?

[Jeff T]

This happened to Bobby D last summer. It ended up being just a loose ground I believe, but I'm not positive. I know there was a thread about it. May do a search for a post by him.

[Jason B]

It would be easy enough to re-wire the power source to the Taps so it's not shared with the ignition at all. That may help ya?

[dogbert]

I'd check all ground connections, including at the control on the throttle. There have been a couple of threads about the wires fraying going into the TAPS switch. Some engines are very sensitive to drops in voltage that you might get with a short.

Does the TAPS work at all? One thing to check is whether or not you can move your TAPS plate with the ignition on, but the engine not running. I'd check the voltage on your dash gauge when this is happening.

Let us know what you find out.

[kana12]

i dont know the voltage but when i hit the taps button for instance at night every light in the boat will dim.. its like maybe a power spike is happening every now and then

[Tequilasun]

It would be easy enough to re-wire the power source to the Taps so it's not shared with the ignition at all. That may help ya?

the taps should be wired with power all the time, right? It has a delay on it that will return it to fully up when the ignition is off for a minute or so. Our 05 did.

In all likelyhood, it's a grounding issue, most boat boat electrical weirdness eventually traces back there.

[ImaPigDog]

In all likelyhood, it's a grounding issue, most boat boat electrical weirdness eventually traces back there.

...sometimes even personal weirdness traces back to grounding issues (I should know)! :rolleyes::D:D

[MoneyPity]

...sometimes even personal weirdness traces back to grounding issues (I should know)! :rolleyes::D:D

Grounding issues to the taps system would not cause interior lights to dim.:02:

Disconnect taps electrical connections at pump and then play with taps switch. Interior lights should be okay. If the pum was intermittent I would look at ground and power feeds but you need a multimeter to read votages at pump and ground resitance etc. They are cheap at Radioshack or Walmart and even ebay. The one that stays in my boat cost $15.00 and has saved me many times with my previous boat. I carry in my boat kit electrical tape, but splces and a mixture of fuses and blak and red 12ga wire for peace of mind.

To me without electrical readings I would bet Taps pump is causing a spike in volts which may cause engine to shutdown.:02:

Do you need electrical Drawings. I have some that might help. I posted them but it would be easier to repost if needed.

[raythompson]

A high resistance anywhere in the circuit that feeds the taps, including the batteries, will cause the lights to dim when the taps is activated. The voltage drop, which will dim the lights, is because of the resistance in the connection. More current or load will cause more voltage drop across the connection. This voltage drop is probably enough to knock out the computer controlling the engine.

Check all the connections from the batteries to the taps switch, especially the power line from the batteries (not the high current starter cables). Place the meter on each connection and activate the taps switch. Start at the battery and work towards the tap switch. When you find the connection with the large voltage drop the problem is either in that connection or the one prior.

[kana12]

thanks for all the replies.. ive been really sick and havent been able to even get on the computer till now but if i feel better i will try to trouble shoot tommarrow.. thanks again guys

[GIZMO]

A high resistance anywhere in the circuit that feeds the taps, including the batteries, will cause the lights to dim when the taps is activated. The voltage drop, which will dim the lights, is because of the resistance in the connection. More current or load will cause more voltage drop across the connection. This voltage drop is probably enough to knock out the computer controlling the engine.

Check all the connections from the batteries to the taps switch, especially the power line from the batteries (not the high current starter cables). Place the meter on each connection and activate the taps switch. Start at the battery and work towards the tap switch. When you find the connection with the large voltage drop the problem is either in that connection or the one prior.

This is exactly how to trouble shoot this problem!:bo:

[BobbyD]

The grounding wire was exactly my problem.

believe it or not it was one of my major ground wires. My former dealer (they are out of business now...Wonder why!!!) missed this small issue during de-winterization. My problem was exactly the same. Move taps down and it would shut the engine down and start the loud beep.

I had the two batteries so I guess it would still let the engine start.

Good luck with he troubleshooting.

BD

[MoneyPity]

My ground wire was not properly crimped at battery terminal so I had weird issues at weird times . I went to listen to the new Pro 60's and no music no lights horn bilge nada nothing:confused::(

Battery cable had pulled out of battery neg terminal causing intermittent power connection and other bs. Boat must have been a Friday boat:D $ 3.99 and a little surgery and cable not properly terminated and has not failed since:ro: To clarify this was factory ground connection.

It still amazed me that it ran well the first couple of hours of time we went boating but once the yellow label slid down the cable thus no more ground. Some basic trouble shooting the use of a multimeter and basic set of tools for the boat and got done :ro::)

[R&T Babich]

My ground wire was not properly crimped at battery terminal ....

One of the first things I did when we got our boat was to solder every crimped connector I could find.

[MoneyPity]

To troubleshoot any farther you either take to dealer or a shop you trust or contunue to solve your self.

What yo need yo inverst in to do more trouble shooting is oick up and in-expensive multimeter so that you an neasure voltage at the pum, from the taps switches ground to battery ground, volateg at the taps pump when trying to go up and down.

What you are looking fo is a voltage loss. Ther suould be very little or no volts from taps gtound to battery ground. if there is voltage then you need to trace the connection and use the resistance function of the meter to see how much resistance there is from switch to battery and then backwards from all points in the circuit to where the resistance is higher.

To fix this you need a basic understanding of electicity.

Have you in trouble shooting diconnected the wiring to the pump and then while moving paly wil taps switch. If nothing happens the I would try connecting pump to battery and isolate and taps connections thre the boats harness. If the pump when disconnected fron boat wiring and when it is connected directly causes the boat to shut down I would suspect the pump as the culprit here.

How many volts across the battery do you read while boat is running and then when pump actuated. If the voltage at the battery goes down beolow 12v then the pump is probably culprit

This link might help. It shows wiring for an 07 30V but the info will be similar on your boat as far as taps wiring. Do you know any one that understands electrical circuits that could help? Page 2 of the drawing in upper right section has th taps pump wiring. It seems that a relay is in thr circuit so that might be a good place to start checking voltages. Unfortunately the relay does not show me detail as how the relay is wired to pump222

http://tigeowners.com/downloads/20VWiringDiagrams.pdf