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Carter13
01-24-2009, 03:15 AM
I am looking at used 05 and 06 Centurions and Moombas for sale.
There are some smoking deals out there for the 25 to 29ish range that has me really interested.
I just might pull the trigger since I have been without a boat for almost a year.

chpthril
01-24-2009, 03:21 AM
You can get an 05 22V for 29k'sh. Book on my 06Ve is low to mid 30's. May even look at an 06, may get a better rate and longer term if you want then on an 05.

Go sea trial a Moomba on a rough day and with the bimini deployed, nuff said.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2005-TIGE-22V-93871534

I hope they didnt give $38K for this one: http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2005-TIGE-22V-93020429

bobback
01-24-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm not a Tige owner YET, but working on it; here's my story.

I test drove a z1 this last summer, but at the time I was thinking I just couldn't spend that much on a boat, especially in MT; yet, we really liked this layout. Found a smoking deal on a new Centurion, so pulled the trigger.

Even though the Centurion has the same horsepower, and it pulls people just fine, it just doesn't seem to have the get-up-and-go out of the hole (when not pulling anyone) like the z1 does. I have the high alitude prop on it, and the only thing that I can think of is the...different hull design. I'm guessing the Centurion creates just a little more drag.

Looking back I should have test drove the Centurion, but I was thinking they both have the same horsepower, they have to drive / handle all the same...especially when spending that much on a boat!

Anyway, I'll make you a smoking deal (it really is for sale) on an 08 Centurion, w/ few hours, like almost low nada book.

chpthril
01-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Hay bob, if you don't mind me asking as I'm curious from a salesman's view, what Centurion, did you go with, was it the Falcon? Was it apples-2-apples (similarly equipped with options) to the Z1 but cheaper cheaper.

Fell free to reply in a PM if you want.

kko
01-24-2009, 02:28 PM
[url]http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2005-CENTURION-Avalanche-91190190[
this one can be had for 30k if im not mistaken 813-508-5777 talk to Brian

kko
01-24-2009, 02:34 PM
crap that link isnt working i guess but call him if you have questions.
you can also goto www.fortesonline and look in used boat section its there as well as on boattrader online.

Kito
01-24-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm not a Tige owner YET, but working on it; here's my story.

I test drove a z1 this last summer, but at the time I was thinking I just couldn't spend that much on a boat, especially in MT; yet, we really liked this layout. Found a smoking deal on a new Centurion, so pulled the trigger.

Even though the Centurion has the same horsepower, and it pulls people just fine, it just doesn't seem to have the get-up-and-go out of the hole (when not pulling anyone) like the z1 does. I have the high alitude prop on it, and the only thing that I can think of is the...different hull design. I'm guessing the Centurion creates just a little more drag.

Looking back I should have test drove the Centurion, but I was thinking they both have the same horsepower, they have to drive / handle all the same...especially when spending that much on a boat!

Anyway, I'll make you a smoking deal (it really is for sale) on an 08 Centurion, w/ few hours, like almost low nada book.

Where in Montana are you. Their are a couple of us on here from Montana?:ot:

Kito
01-24-2009, 02:41 PM
Bob- The Helena boat show is this weekend. You should go and check it out . They have a couple of really sweet Z1s.:D

Waterski-Rebel
01-24-2009, 03:24 PM
I paid $27k last year for a 2004 Switch V with 72 hours on it. I added a 2nd battery, tower speakers, 2 amps, bow speakers, sub, and depth finder all for under $500. The boat has everything except for built in ballasts, and perfect pass. I have purchased some Fat Sacks, and would like to add PP down the road. The guy I bought it from lived 400ish miles away. It was worth the search, and the drive. The boat is perfect for us.

With todays economy, there are probably better deals out there. If you really want a Tige, and are patient, and willing to drive a little ways, you will probably find the boat you really want.

Domsz06
01-24-2009, 06:01 PM
i have a sic boat with lots of tuns, ballest, pp whole nine yards. make ya a deal :D

dogbert
01-24-2009, 10:51 PM
i have a sic boat with lots of tuns, ballest, pp whole nine yards. make ya a deal :D

Yeah, he basically wants to trade in his NVS Addictions for some Wet Sounds ;)

samw
01-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Yeah, he basically wants to trade in his NVS Addictions for some Wet Sounds ;)

LOL

bobback
01-25-2009, 03:43 AM
Where in Montana are you. Their are a couple of us on here from Montana?:ot:

I'm in Bozeman, and went to the boat show today...have to start working on the wife you know! I pm'd you about your rz2.

Jetrey
01-28-2009, 07:33 PM
we may have to see about having the "tige addict" title removed from carter13 ;) :ro: unless of course you buy my 22ve, 07' less than 80 hrs.

Razzman
01-28-2009, 10:22 PM
Go sea trial a Moomba on a rough day and with the bimini deployed, nuff said.

Hey Chp, what's up with the Moomba/bimini thing? Just curious as i always have mine up and i don't notice anything out of the ordinary happening, at least nothing that the other brands including the Tigés are experiencing as well. :confused:

chpthril
01-28-2009, 10:30 PM
Hey Chp, what's up with the Moomba/bimini thing? Just curious as i always have mine up and i don't notice anything out of the ordinary happening, at least nothing that the other brands including the Tigés are experiencing as well. :confused:

I'm not a tall guy by any means and I crack my head every time I get up from the driver's seat and then again when I go back under. The towers are very low, but it's not as noticeable with the bimini stowed.

Razzman
01-28-2009, 10:49 PM
I'm not a tall guy by any means and I crack my head every time I get up from the driver's seat and then again when I go back under. The towers are very low, but it's not as noticeable with the bimini stowed.

Ahhh ok ... Mine had that problem too until i installed longer front straps allowing me to extend the bimini up to full height. Now i can stand up or pass through to the front without issue. :D

illiniboarder88
01-30-2009, 03:20 AM
Well guys, I have turned to the darkside. I picked up a new project boat, and it's not a Tige. I'll be picking up a Nautique 2001 in the next couple of weeks. Got the deal worked out today. I was getting the itch for a project, so a friend and I decided to pull the trigger.

larryueckert
01-30-2009, 03:23 AM
Well guys, I have turned to the darkside. I picked up a new project boat, and it's not a Tige. I'll be picking up a Nautique 2001 in the next couple of weeks. Got the deal worked out today. I was getting the itch for a project, so a friend and I decided to pull the trigger.

keeping the tige or she going and the naugty comes in

illiniboarder88
01-30-2009, 03:45 AM
keeping it.

lightning59
01-30-2009, 12:21 PM
illini, I've owned 2 of those. good luck on the project. remember pics!

illiniboarder88
01-30-2009, 01:09 PM
I'll get you guys pics as soon as I have some. Winter made me bored, so I had to pull the trigger on something. I briefly considered rebuilding a jetski motor.

da.bell
01-30-2009, 01:16 PM
After all the work you did on your current Tige, I am sure you feel like you are in a down time with working on boats. Good luck and TTIWWP!!!! :D

Carter13
01-31-2009, 02:44 AM
Well my wife and I are going to go out tomorrow and test ride an 05 Centurion Avalanche C4 with 270 hrs. It has factory ballasts, one in front and two in back, an upgraded G Force tower, stereo with speakers in the boat and a tandem trailer. The color is blue hule with blue mid and silver flake mixed in.
It is a repo from Cali and we are set on a price $7000 less than Low Blue Book on NADA with this particular boat. We ran a HIN# check and it came back clean.
The trailer needs new tires because there is no tread left. What do you guys recommend other then Carlisie.
There are some crazy deals with the California repos happening right now for you West cost guys.

da.bell
01-31-2009, 03:23 AM
There are a ton of boats on the market in CA. It's hard to sell one here since the water is in short supply and then no one can afford anything anymore because of the economy.

As for tires, I have Goodyear tires on it but IMO, stay FAR AWAY from Carlisie tires. I have only hear horror stories about blowouts with them. :02:

Carter13
01-31-2009, 03:36 AM
Da,

Thanks for the info. I have heard about the Carlilse tire blowouts. I had Carlilse on My 22V trailer and heard all about the horror stories of them blowing out. I never experienced that in the long hauls that I did with the boat to Shasta and Eastern Idaho but the temps are alot lower than in Nevada and Arizona.
I feel for you trying to get rid of your 24Ve with the flood of all the dealer repos in Cali and other states. I think your idea of renting it out is a good one if you can find a price per day that satisfies both parties. I looked into renting last spring and the prices were 300+ per day for a piece of crap.
For a guy with no boat this is a open platter to get a steal from if he looks long and hard.
I actually called the dealer I bought my previous Tige from to see where they were at and his prices on 08's were unbelievably high. He obviously isn't worried about having 16 Tiges on his lot.
Pictures to come tomorrow if the test drive goes well.

sparky216
01-31-2009, 06:07 AM
Good luck Carter, hope you find what your looking for! I've never owned a boat long enough to worry about tires, but I have Carlisle tires and that's all I've ever had on boat and utility trailers. Never had a prob, but seem that many have. Good luck again on that boat demo.......

SPBFAN
01-31-2009, 03:12 PM
Good luck, I have the Good Year Marathon tires on my trailer and I love them. I have one more year before replacement takes place. I have not had a blow out year. In my opinion it would be worth searching around and finding Good Year Marathons again but make sure to check the dates on the tires before you buy them.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

ImaPigDog
01-31-2009, 04:04 PM
Good luck, I have the Good Year Marathon tires on my trailer and I love them. I have one more year before replacement takes place. I have not had a blow out year. In my opinion it would be worth searching around and finding Good Year Marathons again but make sure to check the dates on the tires before you buy them.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

SBPFan - great news link! Very informative (and a bit scary).

I wish that I could say the same about the Goodyear Marathon tires. I used to love them until I had three of them blowout within 29 expressway miles last Labor Day. :mad::confused::mad::confused::mad: Many people swear by them but I have lost faith after that ordeal. And yes, they were properly inflated, not dry-rotted or UV damaged (garage kept) and on about three years old.

After a lot of research, I ended up replacing them with Denman Express (http://www.denmantire.com/catalog/p22.pdf) from Denman Tire Co. (http://www.denmantire.com/main.php). I order them from 4x4groupbuy.com (http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/trailer-tires-denman-express-radial-c-1083_1085.html) and had a local tire dealer mount them.

From my research, historically, there were many complaints about the Carlisles and more recently, there are quite a few grumblings about Goodyear. Of course, these two brands are probably the most common on the road and would have a higher propensity for complaints. Some of the issues also arise from dealers/manufacturers skimping on the size necessary and the tires are loaded nearly to capacity or even overloaded.

Good Luck!

SPBFAN
01-31-2009, 04:59 PM
SBPFan - great news link! Very informative (and a bit scary).

I wish that I could say the same about the Goodyear Marathon tires. I used to love them until I had three of them blowout within 29 expressway miles last Labor Day. :mad::confused::mad::confused::mad: Many people swear by them but I have lost faith after that ordeal. And yes, they were properly inflated, not dry-rotted or UV damaged (garage kept) and on about three years old.

After a lot of research, I ended up replacing them with Denman Express (http://www.denmantire.com/catalog/p22.pdf) from Denman Tire Co. (http://www.denmantire.com/main.php). I order them from 4x4groupbuy.com (http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/trailer-tires-denman-express-radial-c-1083_1085.html) and had a local tire dealer mount them.

From my research, historically, there were many complaints about the Carlisles and more recently, there are quite a few grumblings about Goodyear. Of course, these two brands are probably the most common on the road and would have a higher propensity for complaints. Some of the issues also arise from dealers/manufacturers skimping on the size necessary and the tires are loaded nearly to capacity or even overloaded.

Good Luck!

I agree with that for sure. I plan to look and see what else is out there when i do replace mine. If there is something better I will use them. I am like you order them in and take them to a local tire shop to have them installed if that is what it takes to get a good tire. Make sure you pay the money and have them balanced at the same time and make sure that when they are shipped to you, you get some that are not shelf rotted already and several years old. It is hard to find but it is worth it knowing you have truly a new tire.

illiniboarder88
01-31-2009, 05:44 PM
Here are some prelim shots

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/oakrun88/nautique.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/oakrun88/nautique2.jpg

TeamAllen
02-02-2009, 04:39 AM
Looks in pretty good shape. I'm sure there is more work ahead than the pictures show.

How's the interior?

illiniboarder88
02-02-2009, 12:25 PM
The interior is jacked. Seats, carpet, etc.

da.bell
02-02-2009, 01:43 PM
Da,

Thanks for the info. I have heard about the Carlilse tire blowouts. I had Carlilse on My 22V trailer and heard all about the horror stories of them blowing out. I never experienced that in the long hauls that I did with the boat to Shasta and Eastern Idaho but the temps are alot lower than in Nevada and Arizona.
I feel for you trying to get rid of your 24Ve with the flood of all the dealer repos in Cali and other states. I think your idea of renting it out is a good one if you can find a price per day that satisfies both parties. I looked into renting last spring and the prices were 300+ per day for a piece of crap.
For a guy with no boat this is a open platter to get a steal from if he looks long and hard.
I actually called the dealer I bought my previous Tige from to see where they were at and his prices on 08's were unbelievably high. He obviously isn't worried about having 16 Tiges on his lot.
Pictures to come tomorrow if the test drive goes well.

We will see about renting. Having someone renting it out and taking the responsibilities of driving it to and from the lake and then cleaning it. We shall see how it works this year. With the water drought and the huge amounts of boats here in CA, it's hard to do almost anything right now. However, summer is coming and things might change.

You should have called my dealer :D They still have 2007 model RZ2's in stock for $53k :ro: or talked with Rushin since he got one incredible deal on his RZ2 also. :ro: :ro:

Carter13
02-02-2009, 08:20 PM
Da,

I really didn't want to pay in the 50's this time around. I checked some of the dealers just to see how much they had come down on 07 and 08's. I was determined to pick something up in the mid to upper 20's.
If you want plenty of water just come on up to the Northwest because it isn't going anywhere. :D

zad0030
02-02-2009, 08:27 PM
The interior is jacked. Seats, carpet, etc.

Rope rubrail, NICE!:ro:

illiniboarder88
02-09-2009, 08:44 PM
Just a quick update, didn't end up buying it. Drove about 6 hours to pick it up, and when I got there, it looked horrible in comparison to its photos. The guy had provided lots of photos, and I don't think it was intentional. Shat happens.

TeamAllen
02-10-2009, 12:37 PM
Bummer! Are you still going to look for another project?

illiniboarder88
02-10-2009, 01:52 PM
I'm always open to the idea. This one just was too much. I probably would have pulled the trigger if he'd have come down a little lower, but even so, I'm not sure that would have been a good idea. Interestingly, the red on there is paint, and it was in rough shape. I was going to have to sand that thing down to white.