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22ba
01-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Does anybody on here have the factory ballast option on a 20V? I'm considering adding it and am curious what it looks like.

da.bell
01-08-2009, 03:37 PM
IMO, you can get more weigh than the factory ballast in your 20V. IMO, you might want to talk with some members around here about that. I am sure SPBFan and Timmy! might help out with building one for you. :02:

SPBFAN
01-08-2009, 08:04 PM
Does anybody on here have the factory ballast option on a 20V? I'm considering adding it and am curious what it looks like.

What year boat are you putting it in. Is it an 09 and is it an under the floor system? If not and even if it is we can give you some good direction for the best results with building your own system for sure. I would love to help you build a good system.

chpthril
01-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Well, I'll describe it to ya: The 20V has to hard tanks in the rear, one in each storage locker. In the front there are to smaller hard tank, one in each storage console. The total weight (as advertised) is 600 lb's. There are 4 fill pumps on a manifold in the bilge fed by a thru-hull in the transom. There are 4 drain pumps, one on each tank that empty through their own thru-hull near the tank, just below the rubrail.

I would definitely recommend going with an aftermarket custom system using soft sacs instead of rigid, you only lose storage when sacs are filled. What weight/size sacs you go with will depend on how you use the boat and what you want to achieve with the ballast. Hopefully some peeps with 20V's can chime in with what sacs they are using, especially for the front/bow.

22ba
01-15-2009, 02:51 PM
What year boat are you putting it in. Is it an 09 and is it an under the floor system? If not and even if it is we can give you some good direction for the best results with building your own system for sure. I would love to help you build a good system.

It's a 2008, I'm now thinking aftermarket (bags) is the way to go, this after getting a quote for the Factory system.

da.bell
01-15-2009, 03:24 PM
It's a 2008, I'm now thinking aftermarket (bags) is the way to go, this after getting a quote for the Factory system.

They do charge a lot for that to be put into your boat. :02:

SPBFAN
01-15-2009, 07:57 PM
It's a 2008, I'm now thinking aftermarket (bags) is the way to go, this after getting a quote for the Factory system.

We can most certainly help you build a system. The questions in how much are they charging and what are you getting. This way we can compare apples to apples and see if it really is a benifit for you to do it aftermarket.

22ba
01-16-2009, 01:37 PM
Looking at roughly $1800 for the factory system (installed).

chpthril
01-16-2009, 01:51 PM
Looking at roughly $1800 for the factory system (installed).

That is actually a good price for (for 4 hard tanks and pumps, etc.) the system installed. IMO, for the money, you may come out better with a custom setup using Fly High sacs. This will give you more weight and only loss of storage (not really a problem on a 20V) is when sac filled V's hard tanks eating storage all the time. The trick is to get enough weight in the front!

SPBFAN
01-16-2009, 02:26 PM
That is actually a good price for (for 4 hard tanks and pumps, etc.) the system installed. IMO, for the money, you may come out better with a custom setup using Fly High sacs. This will give you more weight and only loss of storage (not really a problem on a 20V) when sac filled V's hard tanks eating storage all the time. The trick is to get enough weight in the front!

X2 it will end up costing you about the same maybe a little less plus install time and effort.

I was thinking they were getting like $3000 for a factory system.

g-man
01-27-2009, 06:40 PM
Hey 20V lovers. We just got 2 500# v-drive sacs and a 200# fat brick to put in the front or balance loads. I'm excited to see how things are going to shape up with the 2007 20V.

Can anyone recomend a small bow sack (to put under front seats) that will fit in the 20V to balance out the load? It seems like there is only room for 100# or so.

Any experience or suggestions from the tribe out there?

G-MONEY
01-27-2009, 08:02 PM
Hey 20V lovers. We just got 2 500# v-drive sacs and a 200# fat brick to put in the front or balance loads. I'm excited to see how things are going to shape up with the 2007 20V.

Can anyone recomend a small bow sack (to put under front seats) that will fit in the 20V to balance out the load? It seems like there is only room for 100# or so.

Any experience or suggestions from the tribe out there?

The bow sac is too big you could have a custom sac made by fly-high but it may not be worth the money for the #'s you get.

highrock
01-27-2009, 08:08 PM
Lead would work as small as the storage is under those seats vs 100 lbs sac

dogbert
01-27-2009, 08:34 PM
Lead would work as small as the storage is under those seats vs 100 lbs sac

I think ragboy had some lead pellet bags that were easy to move around and stored pretty flat.

chpthril
01-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Hey 20V lovers. We just got 2 500# v-drive sacs and a 200# fat brick to put in the front or balance loads. I'm excited to see how things are going to shape up with the 2007 20V.

Can anyone recomend a small bow sack (to put under front seats) that will fit in the 20V to balance out the load? It seems like there is only room for 100# or so.

Any experience or suggestions from the tribe out there?

A custom sac is about the only way to go if you want to put the ballast in the under-seat bow storage, but I'm not sure how much weight is would hold lik eG-money said. I'd love to get a quote for you if you want to measure and draw one up!

A Fat Brick in each console storage would be the next best thing to do for hidden water ballast. That's about equal to the factory tanks. If you didnt mind a sac in the walk-way, a W704 (62x16x10, 370lb's) might be a good fit, or the W713 (16x16x42, 400lb's) might work.

I have 2 issues with lead, IF you tow your vehicle; Lead adds to your tow weight (as well as the load on the trailer itself) and tongue weight if placed in the bow. If your boat is stored on a lift, or literally towed around the corner to the ramp, then lead id great. :02:

highrock
01-28-2009, 01:06 AM
Well depending on where you put the lead makes a difference on trailer/tongue weight. If you are putting the weight in the middle of the boat it wont matter about the weight on the trailer axles since they are plenty strong for the boat+ more especially with a Tandemn under a lighter 20V. The problem would be with the tow vehicle if it would be too much for it to handle.

I am lucky since I have a ramp at my house and just pull the boat in and out no more then 200 Yards each time, but I understand exactly where your coming from Mike.

g-man
01-28-2009, 04:00 PM
Well I tow with a 2003 Dodge diesel, so the tow weight isn't really an issue with the 20V.

This might have been discussed before, but how much weight do we think is required in the bow for my 20V? If I fill the v-drive sacs 1/2 to say 200# each how much weight do I need in the bow?

turbodiesel402
02-22-2009, 07:27 PM
i have a 09 20v with the factory ballast tanks and i like them.. with the factory ballast you can easily add more ballast ..

Swatter
02-24-2009, 02:15 AM
has anyone had a custom bowsac made? i am think about a system as well

chpthril
02-24-2009, 10:58 AM
has anyone had a custom bow sac made? i am think about a system as well

Measure it out, draw it up and I'll get a quote for you! I'd like to see what the bow of a 20 will hold. I'm feeli'n only about 250 though.

Swatter
02-26-2009, 02:19 AM
I will draw one up in the next couple of days. Can we use the area behind seat/speaker as well?

chpthril
02-27-2009, 02:24 AM
I will draw one up in the next couple of days. Can we use the area behind seat/speaker as well?

There is not a lot of room up behind the seatbacks in the bow, so I think the complexity of the sac, and cost, would out weigh the added weight. May be better to stick with a shrunk down version of the integrated bow sac.

Swatter
02-27-2009, 02:45 AM
just finished measuring, quite the chore removing seat backs & bolted in seat bottoms ( few fiberglass splinters later), going to draw it out tomorrow (wont be a good drawing), looks like more cubic room behind seats than under seats but yes a complicated sac

chpthril
02-27-2009, 03:07 AM
just finished measuring, quite the chore removing seat backs & bolted in seat bottoms ( few fiberglass splinters later), going to draw it out tomorrow (wont be a good drawing), looks like more cubic room behind seats than under seats but yes a complicated sac

I'll PM you my Email so you can send me the full size image with dimensions, cat wait to see it and calculate it out!