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For those of you who dont know. I spent the entire day and last night rewiring my stereo with 1/0 gauge wire and added a more power full amp to make all 3 the same. I also added my kinetik at this time and an isolator.
long story short. I got finished.....almost. I had everything done except tightening down the wires on the isolators posts, when I decided that I would put in the batteries and hook them up. then went to tighten up the isolators wires and what would you know......I shorted onto the engine block with my wrench.
my question is what fuse did I blow or circuit breaker did I trip? I checked as many as I could find but the boat still doesnt have power at the key.
what do I do?
thanks in advance ;)
FacePlant
06-12-2008, 01:22 AM
Doubt these motors still use a fusible link, but maybe a maxi fuse??
da.bell
06-12-2008, 01:22 AM
See what happens when you work on your boat and not post whore it up.. :D j/k
The good thing is that you are taking your boat to chpthril so he can help you also. :ro: Sorry, I can't help anymore.
laserfish
06-12-2008, 01:56 AM
Check to see if you have the 90 amp fuse at the starter. That will shut everything down. I know from experience.
chpthril
06-12-2008, 02:00 AM
See what happens when you work on your boat and not post whore it up.. :D j/k
The good thing is that you are taking your boat to chpthril so he can help you also. :ro: Sorry, I can't help anymore.
adding a 2nd battery = $200
installing a 3rd amp = $500
Having chpthril fix your goofs and do it right.............priceless :p :D :ro:
and free :rolleyes: ;)
adding a 2nd battery = $200
installing a 3rd amp = $500
Having chpthril fix your goofs and do it right.............priceless :p :D :ro:
and free :rolleyes: ;)
yes you know I would be lost with out you buddy :D
but thats why I keep you around :ro:
da.bell
06-12-2008, 02:02 AM
adding a 2nd battery = $200
installing a 3rd amp = $500
Having chpthril fix your goofs and do it right.............priceless :p :D :ro:
and free :rolleyes: ;)
rolmfao.. :ro: :ro:
and it was more like
2nd battery 170
3rd amp 300 :p
new wire 100 :p ;)
scoot18
06-12-2008, 02:04 AM
On my previous boat I had a similar condition occur, not by shorting a wrench between the engine and battery, but something happened and I didn't have any power at all, nothing in the engine bay worked, could'nt start the engine. There was a main breaker or something like that on the back side of the engine with a reset button, the button was read and it had 50 embossed into it. So I guess it is a 50 amp ckt breaker, once I discovered that button, I pressed it and wha la, everything was working again. I don't think I have seen anything like that on my tige, but I also haven't had the need to go looking for it either. That is how I discovered it on my previous boat, the nothing working condition sent me looking for a cause.
Good luck!
jwanck11
06-12-2008, 02:05 AM
and still priceless to have it all done right. :D
chpthril
06-12-2008, 02:06 AM
yes you know I would be lost with out you buddy :D
but thats why I keep you around :ro:
Atleast I'm needed :D
Look around for a main Breaker with a red button, that's probably what you popped when you decided to arch-weld with a Craftsman :D
da.bell
06-12-2008, 02:10 AM
On my previous boat I had a similar condition occur, not by shorting a wrench between the engine and battery, but something happened and I didn't have any power at all, nothing in the engine bay worked, could'nt start the engine. There was a main breaker or something like that on the back side of the engine with a reset button, the button was read and it had 50 embossed into it. So I guess it is a 50 amp ckt breaker, once I discovered that button, I pressed it and wha la, everything was working again. I don't think I have seen anything like that on my tige, but I also haven't had the need to go looking for it either. That is how I discovered it on my previous boat, the nothing working condition sent me looking for a cause.
Good luck!
Atleast I'm needed :D
Look around for a main Breaker with a red button, that's probably what you popped when you decided to arch-weld with a Craftsman :D
:D Still can't help but both have said the same thing. :ro:
da.bell
06-12-2008, 02:11 AM
Atleast I'm needed :D
Look around for a main Breaker with a red button, that's probably what you popped when you decided to arch-weld with a Craftsman :D
Actually, you are a Tool!!! :D
scoot18
06-12-2008, 02:17 AM
Dave; talk about adding insult to injury.:rolleyes: Go easy on the poor guy. :D Not only has he lost the power for his new tunes, he can't even get the engine started. :D :D :D
Your a funny guy.
"Hey," can he borrow your 24 while his is down? After all you aren't using it!:D
chpthril
06-12-2008, 02:17 AM
Actually, you are a Tool!!! :D
yes, but a useful one :o
da.bell
06-12-2008, 02:19 AM
Dave; talk about adding insult to injury.:rolleyes: Go easy on the poor guy. :D Not only has he lost the power for his new tunes, he can't even get the engine started. :D :D :D
Your a funny guy.
"Hey," can he borrow your 24 while his is down? After all you aren't using it!:D
Have been trying to sell it to him since he doesn't want snap out carpet in the new models. :D he he he
found the red 50 button and it didnt work :(
found another one and its not blown :confused:
xpjim1
06-12-2008, 03:43 AM
How about the 80 amp breaker off the perko switch?
Guest
06-12-2008, 09:28 AM
Did you buzz the 90 amp thermal link on the main run to the batteries or isolator. It is a flat black device typically screwed to floor. Disconnect Hot end and ohm it out.
Before you disconnect check voltage across it and should be 0. check voltage on side towards battery or perko and should have 13.6vdc measured from it to ground on engine block.
Disconnect Hot end and ohm it out. Should be about 0 ohms.
rogersbm82
06-12-2008, 10:48 AM
I have had my run in with that big red circuit breaker reset button. I replaced my alternator and the one I took off was an automotive not marine. So when i got the new one I hooked everything up and still had one stud left that didn't have any symbols or anything to tell what it was. I also had one leftover purple wire, and the schematics said that the purple wire went to the alternator so I hooked it up. Boat ran fine till I got back to the dock and it wouldn't turn off. Pulled the keys out and the engine was still chugging. Since the purple wire was the only one I had questioned I pulled it back off and the boat die. Went to try and start it again and had nothing. Found that breaker and reset it but it just kept tripping. Apparently that purple wire was a ground and I hooked it up to a Pos. on the alt. and melted every wire in my wireharness and looms to ground. Spent the next 4 hours rewiring the entire harness and loom. Fun day that was.
dogbert
06-12-2008, 11:12 AM
adding a 2nd battery = $200
installing a 3rd amp = $500
Having chpthril fix your goofs and do it right.............priceless :p :D :ro:
and free :rolleyes: ;)
That's cold. :D
chpthril
06-12-2008, 11:23 AM
That's cold. :D
He's probably on the road already heading this way :D
dogbert
06-12-2008, 12:57 PM
He's probably on the road already heading this way :D
You gonna kick him in the a$$ when he gets there? :D
da.bell
06-12-2008, 12:57 PM
That's cold. :D
But funny!!! :D :ro: :D :ro:
chpthril
06-12-2008, 12:59 PM
You gonna kick him in the a$$ when he gets there? :D
I'll just have to school him about disconnecting batteries before working on stuff :rolleyes:
da.bell
06-12-2008, 01:01 PM
I'll just have to school him about disconnecting batteries before working on stuff :rolleyes:
You mean connecting batteries before it's time to... :D
dogbert
06-12-2008, 01:02 PM
I'll just have to school him about disconnecting batteries before working on stuff :rolleyes:
I have a friend that starts projects and then calls me for help. I usually tell him if he doesn't call me before starting on it, he'll need to take it to the dealer.
da.bell
06-12-2008, 01:04 PM
I have a friend that starts projects and then calls me for help. I usually tell him if he doesn't call me before starting on it, he'll need to take it to the dealer.
^^^^ lol
Jason B
06-12-2008, 01:31 PM
I have that friend too, except my "friend" doesn't call. He waits until he sees me outside working on my boat and the SHOWS UP with his boat and his problems. No beer in hand either, how f-d up is that!? Last ime I told him to leave and don't come back without beer:p Last weekend he had his boat and a stereo..."can you put this in real quick?"
sorry, :ot: you hit a hot button
dogbert
06-12-2008, 02:44 PM
I have that friend too, except my "friend" doesn't call. He waits until he sees me outside working on my boat and the SHOWS UP with his boat and his problems. No beer in hand either, how f-d up is that!? Last ime I told him to leave and don't come back without beer:p Last weekend he had his boat and a stereo..."can you put this in real quick?"
sorry, :ot: you hit a hot button
That doesn't sound like a friend at all. He treats you like his personal keffer.
TeamAllen
06-12-2008, 04:10 PM
That doesn't sound like a friend at all. He treats you like his personal keffer.
That's what I was going to say.
Doesn't sound like a friend to me either.
Ok for the RECORD......
Ill be on the road in chps direction tomorrow morning :p
I unhooked everything before I started. just hooked up everything prematurely......some of you older guys my know how that is :p :eek:
I actually called chp about 5 times before even attempting to do this on my own :p and about 3 times during the process. He just likes the fact that I make him feel needed :p
still havent found the fuse yet.......looks all night :confused:
chpthril
06-12-2008, 05:28 PM
Gotta watch that premature electrocution :p
dogbert
06-12-2008, 05:32 PM
Hey man, we've all been there. Every project I've done has the oh sh** moment. I just tell myself that there's nothing that can't be fixed.
ok so found the problem. there was a black wire that was hooked to ground( which would make sense), but it needed to be hooked up to the positive side of the battery. Now I have a new problem.
when ever I hook up that wire to the positive side I can turn the key and everything powers up but when the key is off the red warning light and a warning tone are going off the entire time it is hooked up.....
whats my problem now? oh and the stereo still isnt working.....
da.bell
06-12-2008, 10:50 PM
User ;) :D
Hope you find out soon. :ro:
G-MONEY
06-12-2008, 10:54 PM
I agree
User error......:p
da.bell
06-12-2008, 10:57 PM
I agree
User error......:p
Or was that Loser Error???
I get them confused at times. ;) j/k he he he
scoot18
06-12-2008, 11:06 PM
Gotta watch that premature electrocution :p
Thats awesome, good one Mike!
Don't you hate it when that happens, now look what you have done!:D
G-MONEY
06-12-2008, 11:09 PM
LOOO-HOOO-ZUH-HER!
xpjim1
06-12-2008, 11:24 PM
Loose nut behind the wheel:D jk
da.bell
06-12-2008, 11:35 PM
The funny thing is that my GF is feeling sorry for you and all the harassment that you are receiving....
NOT!!!!!! :D ;)
haha guys :D ok enough with the flaming and HELP ME
da.bell
06-12-2008, 11:42 PM
did you voltage meter everything from the ignition back to the engine yet?
thats not the problem any more, everything is ready to fire now that I got the wires straight. Now the new problem is when I hook up the wire like its supposed to be the warning light on the dash goes on and there is a tone
da.bell
06-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Did you check the fuses on the amps? Have you taken the stereo electrical wiring back to the battery?
amps arent even connected yet......
havent messed with the stereo other than wiring the 0 gauge which isnt even hooked up yet.....
da.bell
06-13-2008, 12:08 AM
I would check to see what you wired before you shorted the boat. :02: Check and recheck what you did. After that, I am not a engine/electrical person.
Sorry. :(
dogbert
06-13-2008, 12:14 AM
thats not the problem any more, everything is ready to fire now that I got the wires straight. Now the new problem is when I hook up the wire like its supposed to be the warning light on the dash goes on and there is a tone
That's missile lock, there must be a Mastercraft around there somewhere :D
da.bell
06-13-2008, 12:15 AM
That's missile lock, there must be a Mastercraft around there somewhere :D
rolmfao..... :D
jwanck11
06-13-2008, 12:17 AM
LOL.
Ive got tone....Ive got tone :D
da.bell
06-13-2008, 04:47 AM
Does the engine start without the alarm going?
FacePlant
06-13-2008, 02:52 PM
That's missile lock, there must be a Mastercraft around there somewhere :D
HAHAHAHA! Hit the brakes and he'll fly RIGHT by!!
HAHAHAHA! Hit the brakes and he'll fly RIGHT by!!
"your going to do WHAT"
dogbert
06-14-2008, 04:31 PM
HAHAHAHA! Hit the brakes and he'll fly RIGHT by!!
Or........faceplant ;)
chpthril
06-16-2008, 12:51 AM
We got it figured out in about 30 mins and got it all fixed right.........and it wasn't CP3's fault :p :D
The power for main relays and breaker, on top of the engine, is tied into the alt output wire some where in the main engine harness. When CPS pulled the alt wire off the starter lug and relocated it to the new battery Iso, the breaker/relay block lost power.
Fix: cut 12v feed wire to breaker/relay block, and laid in new wire down to the starter lug so the relay/breaker block is receiving power as before.
:ot: while he was here we finished up the W/S-XXX box and set it up in his boat and wired it up. With absolutely no tuning at all, this thing was POUNDING :ro: :ro: :ro:
This one 12" has more bass, boom, bump, rumble, etc, then the CC230 in our showroom with 4 Rockford 12's :ro: :ro: :ro:
I'll post pics soon, as this will be going in my boat for our Tige Owners Day next weekend.
thanks for the help chp.
and that bass was kicking. never heard that much come out of one subwoofer....
I think I do have a loose battery connection some where....when I go back thru my own wake or any wake the PP shuts off and so does the rpm gauge but they both cut right back on......
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