Lake Powell went up a FOOT yesterday!

[talltigeguy]

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

If it can go up a foot per day from now until my houseboat trip starts, I might be able to use the castle rock cutoff on June 9th.

It looks like at this rate, I will probably be good for the return trip. That would save me nearly 2 hours of farting around through the channel.

[xpjim1]

whoo hoo!!!

[zad0030]

You can have all our rain...... we dont need it

[KonaKing]

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

If it can go up a foot per day from now until my houseboat trip starts, I might be able to use the castle rock cutoff on June 9th.

It looks like at this rate, I will probably be good for the return trip. That would save me nearly 2 hours of farting around through the channel.

Ya and 2 hrs of gas :eek:

[LovinPowell]

I hate to rain on your parade, but I doubt that it will rise a foot a day for the next 10 days. You are probably right on the return trip part. The only problem with that is finding out while you are out on the lake that the cutoff is open. I could just see some yahoo tell you that it is open and when in reality it isn't. That would be a bummer if you went that way only to find out that you were lied to and then have to turn around and go all the way through the narrows. To guard against that, I will offer my services to you, take me along and at the end of the trip, I will leave well before the houseboat and make sure that the cutoff is open and if it is, I will risk my tige by going through first, thereby assuring your safe passage as you follow a path that is proven to be deep enough.

I will await your further instructions as to when to meet and where.:D :ro: ;)

[eks]

Sweet! :)

[KonaKing]

BULLLLLLLLLLFROG :D :D :D :D

[LovinPowell]

BULLLLLLLLLLFROG :D :D :D :D

I agree, everybody go to bullfrog.

[turbonine]

That would save me nearly 2 hours of farting around through the channel.


My butt is usually puckered too tightly to be "farting around" in the channel of punishment.

[LovinPowell]

Just over seven feet to go. Looks like it might make it.

[Moki]

I will be there on June 13th -20th - Nanner nanner nannnerrrrrr!:)

[talltigeguy]

I will be there on June 13th -20th - Nanner nanner nannnerrrrrr!:)

So it looks like we will overlap a little. I will be pulling out on the 14th. Will you be staying within cell phone range, or will you go up lake a long ways to get away from technology? Give me a call anytime. Do you still have my number?

[LovinPowell]

I will be there on June 13th -20th - Nanner nanner nannnerrrrrr!:)

I'm waiting for the water to warm up a bit, I'll be there June 24th. Then again in July, then again in September, with another trip in the making after that.

Any questions?:D

[eks]

I'll be there next week. I'll give you a report of the water conditions.

I am also going on the week of the 4th of July.

[whitlock87]

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

If it can go up a foot per day from now until my houseboat trip starts, I might be able to use the castle rock cutoff on June 9th.

It looks like at this rate, I will probably be good for the return trip. That would save me nearly 2 hours of farting around through the channel.

I havebeen looking on maps, and i can not find the Castle rock cutoff!

I am going to powell on 6/21. and staying in page. What marina should i use?

Thanks
David

[LovinPowell]

I havebeen looking on maps, and i can not find the Castle rock cutoff!

I am going to powell on 6/21. and staying in page. What marina should i use?

Thanks
David

The Castle Rock Cutoff is where the yellow circle is. The green line is the high water line. The red box is Antelope marina. The light Blue box is Wahweap marina.

The city of Page is at the bottom of the picture.

If the cutoff is open (and it should be by 6/21) to go up the lake it is best to leave from Wahweap. If it is not, it would be best to leave from Antelope.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd51/lovinpowell/General%20Album/castlerockcutoff.jpg

[LovinPowell]

I havebeen looking on maps, and i can not find the Castle rock cutoff!

I am going to powell on 6/21. and staying in page. What marina should i use?

Thanks
David

If you would like to monitor the water level go to this link:

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

If you would like the best map available of Lake Powell (IMHO) go to this link:

http://www.lakepowellmag.com/

That magazine can be bought at any store in page. The maps are very detailed which is why they are on many pages.

[Waterski-Rebel]

talk about memories, the last time I was in Powell was 15 or so years ago, we used to ski in that cove that now is the cutoff, in fact the first time I got up on one ski was in that cove. I was using an old wooden (yellow) ski. It was probably 20 years ago. 17 or so years ago, we were able to pull 5 skiers up at once (4 slalom, and 1 combo). This was with an I/O. I wonder how many my Tige would pull?

[whitlock87]

If you would like to monitor the water level go to this link:

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

If you would like the best map available of Lake Powell (IMHO) go to this link:

http://www.lakepowellmag.com/

That magazine can be bought at any store in page. The maps are very detailed which is why they are on many pages.

Thanks for all the info, but I am having a small problem ( or I am just an ideit:p ). How can get those maps?:confused:
I have looked all over that page, and I see no link to purchase or no way to down load.
HELP please:bo:
Thanks
David

[G-MONEY]

Thanks for all the info, but I am having a small problem ( or I am just an ideit:p ). How can get those maps?:confused:
I have looked all over that page, and I see no link to purchase or no way to down load.
HELP please:bo:
Thanks
David

Google Earth:ro: :ro: :ro:

[Moki]

So it looks like we will overlap a little. I will be pulling out on the 14th. Will you be staying within cell phone range, or will you go up lake a long ways to get away from technology? Give me a call anytime. Do you still have my number?

I will be in cell phone range. However, I will be launching out of Bullfrog on this trip. I assume that you will be out Wahweap or Antelope? I still have your number!:ro:

[LovinPowell]

Thanks for all the info, but I am having a small problem ( or I am just an ideit:p ). How can get those maps?:confused:
I have looked all over that page, and I see no link to purchase or no way to down load.
HELP please:bo:
Thanks
David

The maps that I refered to are contained within each issue of "Lake Powell magazine". You can buy that magazine once you get to Page, or if you want them sooner I would follow the "contact us" link, that will give you an 800 number that you could call and ask them what the best way would be for you to get a copy of their magazine before you get there.


(edit) Here is the direct link to the contacts page:

http://www.lakepowellmag.com/contact.html

[talltigeguy]

I will be in cell phone range. However, I will be launching out of Bullfrog on this trip. I assume that you will be out Wahweap or Antelope? I still have your number!:ro:

I thought you had just got a houseboat at Wahweap? Did I misremember?

I guess it would be a long trip to hook up in the middle somewhere....

[LovinPowell]

Six feet to go. My guess is that it will be where it needs to be by June 8.

[Moki]

I thought you had just got a houseboat at Wahweap? Did I misremember?

I guess it would be a long trip to hook up in the middle somewhere....

No, my boat is in a covered slip in Bull Frog. But, we may be down Wahweap way June 25th -28th with the Ventures.

[xpjim1]

Less than 6 feet to go. Looks like another year that I will not make it to Powell. :(

[da.bell]

Wish some of that water would flow to my local lake. ;) We are still 40 feet below the max level. :(

[time2kyl]

40, that's nothing. Try 112'!! :eek:

[LovinPowell]

No, my boat is in a covered slip in Bull Frog. But, we may be down Wahweap way June 25th -28th with the Ventures.

We will be there at that time, with the same group of young men. I might be looking for an escape route. Will you be in a houseboat, hotel, or camping?

[Moki]

We will be there at that time, with the same group of young men. I might be looking for an escape route. Will you be in a houseboat, hotel, or camping?

Hopefully, the leaders on a houseboat and the young men in tents:D One of our advisors has a houseboat there, otherwise, we will be camping.

[LovinPowell]

We might have to hook up sometime. I might need a little sanity break.

[Moki]

We might have to hook up sometime. I might need a little sanity break.

I will have my cell phone down there. I am not sure where we are camping yet, but will call and let you know. Sanity and Serenity....

[whitlock87]

Lovinpowell
Thanks for all the info.
Thanks to all your help, we should have a great trip at the end of the month.

This is what we have done to be prepared.
1) picked up a GPS unit
2) Marine radio
3) I got a map of lake Powell from the Utah department of truism
4) I have requested a copy of Lake Powell magazine".
5) I have been using Goggle earth and planning out different days of our trip.


The only thing left is what to do at night in Page.
And where to eat in page or surrounding area.

Thanks
Again for all the info
David W

[Waterski-Rebel]

If it is still there, Strombollie's Pizza is a great place to eat in Page.

[SPBFAN]

Wish some of that water would flow to my local lake. ;) We are still 40 feet below the max level. :(

The snow melt has not hit hard here Dabell. It will start this week and keep going. Up where the snow comes from it is in the 30's and night and it is in the 60's if were lucky during the day.

[da.bell]

Well, the local lake has been steady for the past three weeks so they are dumping as much as they are receiving. The snow that we have seen in the hills is down to 3-6 inches deep. So, I think we have seen the highest the lake will be here. :(

[TeamAllen]

Remember your in Page AZ. Your choices are pretty limited.

Strombollies is still there and is an excellent choice!

There are a couple of Mexican Restaurants. We ate at one called Zappos or something. It had something to do with a bare foot guy?

[talltigeguy]

If it is still there, Strombollie's Pizza is a great place to eat in Page.

X 2 highly recommended.

[Dan and Christy]

Remember your in Page AZ. Your choices are pretty limited.

Strombollies is still there and is an excellent choice!

There are a couple of Mexican Restaurants. We ate at one called Zappos or something. It had something to do with a bare foot guy?

Zapatas is always good! Stromboli's is also great.

[Original Wing Nut]

If it is still there, Strombollie's Pizza is a great place to eat in Page.

If you want a good steak there is Ken's Old West a block west of Strombollies. And another vote for Strombollies.

[LovinPowell]

Lovinpowell
Thanks for all the info.
Thanks to all your help, we should have a great trip at the end of the month.

This is what we have done to be prepared.
1) picked up a GPS unit
2) Marine radio
3) I got a map of lake Powell from the Utah department of truism
4) I have requested a copy of Lake Powell magazine".
5) I have been using Goggle earth and planning out different days of our trip.


The only thing left is what to do at night in Page.
And where to eat in page or surrounding area.

Thanks
Again for all the info
David W

Just to add variety, besides Strombollies, we have eaten at the "Dam bar and grill", it was pretty good. Our waiter that night was a kid named "Twist" and he also ran an on the lake catering service. For a fee, he and his partner would come out to you on the lake and prepare a meal (meals) for your group. We were going to try using them once, but the cost was a little high. So if you go to the Dam bar and grill, ask for Twist and see if he is still doing that.

I'm wondering if anyone has met this guy, and happened to use his services?

Also, there are a lot of local places to eat, when I'm there I like to go to the places that are only in Page (not the chain, fast food places). There is a steakhouse just at the top of the hill coming into Page, on the left side. I can't remember the name, but it was pretty good as well.

[LovinPowell]

Updated information:
DATE MEASURED ELEVATION CHANGE
Sun, Jun 01, 2008 3611.66 0.85
Sat, May 31, 2008 3610.81 0.77
Fri, May 30, 2008 3610.04 0.76
Thu, May 29, 2008 3609.28 0.75
Wed, May 28, 2008 3608.53 0.78
Tue, May 27, 2008 3607.75 0.87
Mon, May 26, 2008 3606.88 1.00
Sun, May 25, 2008 3605.88 0.98
Sat, May 24, 2008 3604.90 1.02
Fri, May 23, 2008 3603.88 0.86

Tall: are you going out there this Sunday? It's looking good for you, only about 5 feet to go. If it keeps up at the same pace it should be there about June 5 or 6. You'll have two days extra just so you don't damage your prop going through.

[xpjim1]

3.34 feet to go to the minimum . Whats the diferrence between the absolute minimum usable elevation and minimum safe elevation.

[LovinPowell]

3.34 feet to go to the minimum . Whats the diferrence between the absolute minimum usable elevation and minimum safe elevation.

I'm not sure, I assume that the absolute minimum would be the level at which they say "it's passable, we don't recommend it, but go ahead if you dare", and the minimum safe elevation they say "it is safe to pass, but do it at your own risk". I think that Tall will be there next week so he will be able to give us a firsthand account.

[TeamAllen]

He might be there now?

[talltigeguy]

He might be there now?

I leave in 6 days...woohoo!!

It is going to be tight to see if the cut is passable when I go. That would probably save me nearly 2 hours, and about $75 in gas if it is open.

With my luck the cut will be 3 feet deep and I will go for it and some young punk in a wakeboard boat will come through and throw up a 2 foot wave and I will go busting props and such.

The houseboat probably has less draft than the Tige, and I can trim those engines up as well. I just would need to get the Tige up at it with a running start:o :o

[xpjim1]

Have a great trip. :)

[chpthril]

I here they are putting the squeeze on wakesurfing there :eek: :confused: Something about 20' from the boat?

[xpjim1]

I heard just have a 20 foot wakesurf rope and you are ok

[Timmy!]

I here they are putting the squeeze on wakesurfing there :eek: :confused: Something about 20' from the boat?
Dang! Better get more sacs and increase the speed to make a nice pocket 20' back! Maybe you could surf behind a big cruiser or a houseboat there instead.

[chpthril]

I heard just have a 20 foot wakesurf rope and you are ok

That's what i've heard, but i'm the poor sap :mad: that would end up proving the rumor wrong. :p :D

[LovinPowell]

I here they are putting the squeeze on wakesurfing there :eek: :confused: Something about 20' from the boat?

What?:eek: :eek: Where did you hear that from? That would not be good. Can they enforce something that is not in the state law?

[xpjim1]

Its a post over on wakeworld. I would post the link but I am blocked from that site at work

[chpthril]

What?:eek: :eek: Where did you hear that from? That would not be good. Can they enforce something that is not in the state law?

WW!

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/583811.html?1212466430

[LovinPowell]

I here they are putting the squeeze on wakesurfing there :eek: :confused: Something about 20' from the boat?

Tall:
Here is another thing for you to check out and confirm or deny on your trip. It's a good thing that you're going out there to do all of this research for us.:D :D

[LovinPowell]

I just got off of the phone with two people at Lake Powell the first was a Brent McGinn, Chief Ranger and the second was his boss, Eric Scott, Downlake District Ranger. I was speaking to Brent first and after a while Eric came in the room so he put him on speakerphone and I spoke to both together. Initially Brent didn't seem to understand what wakesurfing was. He cited the 20' foot rope rule and when I asked him "what happens when they drop the rope?" he didn't think that it was possible. "How do you stay behind the boat? Is the rope attached to the board?" he asked. After thoroughly explaining it to both of them, they both agreed that they wouldn't have any problem with this activity. They both said that they are concerned about the safe activities of the boaters and if they came up and saw this activity, they would deem it safe and move on to the next boat. Carbon Monoxide poisoning is their main issue, I cited the Utah law and they reccommended that I speak with the head guy in Salt Lake. I think it helped out alot when I told them that I have already had correspondence with him. I am going to be sending them a couple of pictures of wakesurfing, they said that they would like to inform their rangers that it is safe, and I invited him (Brent) out on my boat so that he could see how safe it really is. Don't know if he'll take me up on it, but I want to make sure that these guys in charge are not misinformed and apply other appropriate laws (teak and body surfing) to this activity. If I get pulled over and ticketed while I am at Lake Powell, I will be going directly to this guy's office to fight it.

[xpjim1]

Good Job!!!

[chpthril]

The only way this sport will survive is to do it safely, and inform the police of what it is, and how it CAN be done safely.

Why to be proactive LP :ro:

[Timmy!]

Nice job LovinPowell! Way to be proactive and help support/promote the sport!

[LovinPowell]

The email has been sent with pictures from this site of various wake surfers. I requested his opinion in a reply email. When I get that reply, I am going to print it out, laminate it, and put it right next to my boat registration. If I do get pulled over, I will make sure that they see it.

[bentone]

:ro: :ro: lovinpowell is the man.:ro: :ro:

[eks]

The email has been sent with pictures from this site of various wake surfers. I requested his opinion in a reply email. When I get that reply, I am going to print it out, laminate it, and put it right next to my boat registration. If I do get pulled over, I will make sure that they see it.

I would love a copy of the email so I can take it to Powell as well.

Thanks!

[talltigeguy]

The email has been sent with pictures from this site of various wake surfers. I requested his opinion in a reply email. When I get that reply, I am going to print it out, laminate it, and put it right next to my boat registration. If I do get pulled over, I will make sure that they see it.

Nice work, dude.

If you can forward the email to me as well, I would appreciate it.

I don't think we are in too much trouble as long as we do not act like smart arses to the water cops. They generally get defensive when we get defensive. I think a little education about where the CO is will make sense to the water cops.

To my knowledge, there has not been a single death attributed to wakesurfing yet. I have seen it behind an I/O at Powell, so I am sure one is coming...but so far so good.

[talltigeguy]

I here they are putting the squeeze on wakesurfing there :eek: :confused: Something about 20' from the boat?

I just heard the same thing about Lake Mead. Obviously started by some government guy who does not know the difference. As I said, we need to pour out some educational information here.

LP,

Can I get the phone number to those guys at Powell? How about posting their email address and we can flood them with a 'Wakesurfing is safe' campaign.

[LovinPowell]

I can get you his phone number, I want to wait and see how he replies. He might not want his email out there for everyone, but then again I'm sure that it isn't hard to find either. I left it at work, so I will try to get that to you also.

Back on topic. Only 2.5 feet to go. Tall, it looks like you will be able to take a chance at it. You need to call while you are out there and let us know how it is. If you call towards the end of the week, we can tell you how much it has risen while you've been out there.

[Moki]

I just got off of the phone with two people at Lake Powell the first was a Brent McGinn, Chief Ranger and the second was his boss, Eric Scott, Downlake District Ranger... I will be going directly to this guy's office to fight it.


:ro: :ro: You da man!:ro: :ro:

[SPBFAN]

I need to get my wife to lake Powell this year if I can. Anyone know a reasonable priced house boat. I figure if I make it a nice trip with a house boat that gives here some privacy and space to get away from the rush of playing all day, and a clean shower each day she will be more willing to go again and she will find it enjoyable. Any help or ideas from those that have dealt with the same situations.

[turbonine]

I need to get my wife to lake Powell this year if I can. Anyone know a reasonable priced house boat. I figure if I make it a nice trip with a house boat that gives here some privacy and space to get away from the rush of playing all day, and a clean shower each day she will be more willing to go again and she will find it enjoyable. Any help or ideas from those that have dealt with the same situations.


Good deals are to be had after peak season. I booked 10/15 and got a house boat that normally runs 5500 for 4500 with 300 in fuel credit.

There is nothing better than being out in the middle of Padre Bay using your REI biodegradable soap and your boat shower to clean off.:ro:

[live2dive]

Larry,
I was noticing the lake is literally within a foot of goal but the water temps are 5-7 degrees colder than the past few years. I guess there is a price to pay for all that extra run-off, eh.

[LovinPowell]

I just spoke to the ranger's office at lake powell, they said that the water is just about ready to merge together, but that the cutoff won't be open for another couple of weeks as they are saying that it will need to rise at least another five feet.

So it looks like you won't be able to use the cut-off this trip at all.:( :mad: :(

[talltigeguy]

I just spoke to the ranger's office at lake powell, they said that the water is just about ready to merge together, but that the cutoff won't be open for another couple of weeks as they are saying that it will need to rise at least another five feet.

So it looks like you won't be able to use the cut-off this trip at all.:( :mad: :(

5 feet will happen in the next 5 days at the current rate...I wonder what water level they are watching? Maybe it is due for a sudden severe slowdown?

Yesterday it went up 1.02 feet.

Did you talk to them about the problem with citing people for surfing?

[xpjim1]

:ro: use it anyway. Show them there wrong and Tige's are tuff:ro: :D

Disclaimer: proceed at your own risk. I am not liable for peoploe listening to me:D

[xpjim1]

Picture from today from Waynes World of the cutoff

[SPBFAN]

Good deals are to be had after peak season. I booked 10/15 and got a house boat that normally runs 5500 for 4500 with 300 in fuel credit.

There is nothing better than being out in the middle of Padre Bay using your REI biodegradable soap and your boat shower to clean off.:ro:

That is a good idea. I knew the boat shower was for somthing.

[dogbert]

That is a good idea. I knew the boat shower was for somthing.

Or you could save your money and just jump in. ;)

[Paublo]

Just taken from LakePowell water-data.com

"The official time the waters touched was June 6, 2008 at 6:34 am MST"

The last time it was like this the Park Service wouldn't let anyone cross until there was 5 feet of water cover. And they monitored and controlled access.

Tall, I bet it will be around Antelope going out and thru Castle Rock coming back. Which means I get the short cut both ways the next week. Sorry

[G-MONEY]

Dang it I was off by 5 days and 2 hr

[LovinPowell]

I get the short cut both ways the next week. Sorry

Me too. :D :D (assuming the water level stays high enough through July).

[turbonine]

Good deals are to be had after peak season. I booked 10/15 and got a house boat that normally runs 5500 for 4500 with 300 in fuel credit.

There is nothing better than being out in the middle of Padre Bay using your REI biodegradable soap and your boat shower to clean off.:ro:

Quoting myself, because I am an idiot. I got the houseboat for 3500, not 4500. It was 2,000 less by doing it later in the season.

[G-MONEY]

[QUOTE=turbonine;175616] because I am an idiot. QUOTE]



Thats the first step to recovery:p ;)

[KonaKing]

Todays water 3613

[LovinPowell]

Picture from today from Waynes World of the cutoff

All right, I give up, I have looked and cannot find that picture on Wayne's world. Would you please help a poor guy out and tell me where it is. The waters touched at 6:34 this morning, I wonder if there is a picture of that?

[eks]

It hit the mark yesterday!

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/graphingengine.php?graphing=1+back_days=150&showlevel=3615.58

[LovinPowell]

It hit the mark yesterday!

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/graphingengine.php?graphing=1+back_days=150&showlevel=3615.58

It was actually this morning, here is the headline of the winner of their contest:

CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR WINNER, SCOTT WEST of Gilbert, AZ.
The official time the waters touched was June 6, 2008 at 6:34 am MST

and here is the link:


http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

[eks]

Was some one there the entire time just waiting for it to happen?

[LovinPowell]

Was some one there the entire time just waiting for it to happen?

I guess with all of the big prize money involved, someone had to be out monitoring it.
Must have been some park ranger with nothing better to do because nobody was out wakesurfing yet.

It had to be an exciting moment. I'd expect news coverage of it tonight, film at 10:00:D

[xpjim1]

All right, I give up, I have looked and cannot find that picture on Wayne's world. Would you please help a poor guy out and tell me where it is. The waters touched at 6:34 this morning, I wonder if there is a picture of that?

I took that from another site-not Waynes World stating that is where it came from. So sorry I am no help

[xpjim1]

Here is todays shot with the water touching. Does not look safe too me:D

[xpjim1]

All right, I give up, I have looked and cannot find that picture on Wayne's world. Would you please help a poor guy out and tell me where it is. The waters touched at 6:34 this morning, I wonder if there is a picture of that?
Here they are waiting

[xpjim1]

and the touch

[LovinPowell]

I knew that they had to have pictures of the event. Where did you find them?

Thanks for the reference, you da man

[KonaKing]

Thats cool

[Krunchytaco]

Hey guy's, I'm a bit of a newby to this end of Powell...we usually go out at Bullfrog. Were booked for the 10th of July. Any tips for me and my famn damilly??

Thanx

[xpjim1]

Heres a picture of the cutoff from June 7th

[Timmy!]

Cutoff is open (http://www.wayneswords.com/cgi-bin/wwlprecreation.pl?read=37171)

[airjorgy]

Heading to Powell on Friday afternoon for a graduation
party for 5 days. Brand new 2008 Sunstar Houseboat:ro:

we'll be in halls bay or bullfrog bay. Name of the
boat is Steal'n Time. We will have a large number
of foilers. Stop on by and have a beer if your
in the area.

AJ

[Dan and Christy]

Airjorgy, who do you know that is graduating, I am from Page?

[airjorgy]

Nobody from Page, it is Torey Narans from Evergreen High School in
Evergreen,CO. I am one of the lucky parents who get to chaparone
15 young adults (they are all good kids) from Colorado for his graduation party week.

We will also have a couple of the Top Professional Hydrofoilers (Torey is
one of them) on the planet there at his party week. So if you see a group of foilers going HUGE in either Bullfrog or Halls Bay behind a Tige that would be us.

Stop on in!

Air

[Moki]

and the touch

I'm all teared up...what a beautiful thing - two bodies of water coming together to form one... simply beautiful....:rolleyes: :p

[eks]

There are over 5' of water on the pass now!

[Timmy!]

Wow! That is impressive that it's 5' deep now!!!!

[LovinPowell]

and still rising:) :)