Interior Problems on '04s?

[Ruune]

Just wondering if anyone else is having problems with their '03-'04 interior. Mines at the dealer as we speak, having almost all of the seating surface cushions' (i.e. the horizontal parts you sit on) skins replaced for tearing seams. Whats interesting is that ALL of them are where the inner roll meets the main panel, and on the 2005s, they have this completely separated, which completely alleviates the stress on the area where mine is torn. Thankfully, the Ski dock has been more than helpful in getting replacement skins, but what concerns me is that the boat is only 5 months from when we took delivery (problem started at 4 months) and although we've already got 115 hours on it. what happens this time next year if/when it recurs? The boat is kept indoors and is not abused during use.

[lake rats dad]

Our 24v just turned a year in July and I have had one skin replaced in the rear but sadly I am looking at replacing more in the not so distant future. Not good with a boat that has only 90 hours on it.

[Ruune]

are yours wearing in the same areas as mine? They're all at the seam where the roll meets the main panel, on the side closest to the center of the boat.

[talltigeguy]

My 02 had similar seams and was just barely starting to show some wear in the area you are referring to. Sounds like the folks at corporate have seen this problem and have acted to fix it. I hope they stand behind you as long as you own the boat.

[lake rats dad]

Same area. Kids come in off the back and step down on the seat and well, sounds like you know exactly what I'm talking about. The seats are comfy and look great but they need to last longer. Oh and in case anybody is wondering, yes the boat is covered and stored indoors.

[JASON739]

I have an '02 that did the same. Tige was good about helping though. The seats are not stuffed as tight as before and are much more comfortable.

[poohpotta]

Wow, I don't look forward to having that problem with my 04!!!

[talltigeguy]

In all honesty the seats in my 05 are not as comfortable (but not bad by any stretch) as the seats in my 02, but I would gladly trade that for some durability issues.

[tktige']

:( my 2001 21v is starting show tears in the seam on the top have of the lounge seats at the seams only 75hrs dealer says to contact Tige' any one see this on the 01's. A friend said Tige' has a five year warranty on this any one deal with this?

Thanks TK

[talltigeguy]

Anyone have pics of what you're referring to?

[Ruune]

just had mine replaced! dont know if I still have the pics anywhere. The new interior is perfect...lets hope it stays that way!

[ghollow]

Tige must have changed fabrics or suppliers. My boat is a '98 and my seats are just now starting to have problems.

[gitair]

I have an 01 21V with the same problem starting this season. Tige has yet to respond to my calls, and emails. I dont have a dealer close as the one in SLO Cali. has done me wrong in the past. The next closest dealer is five hours away in Sacramento.

[Tige M.D.]

gitair, how did we do you wrong in the past? i'd love to have another chance to earn business back.

greg
951/737-9801
tige watersports

[gitair]

When I brought my boat to the dealer the contract mechanic " The Boat Doc" did more damage to my boat and handed me the warranty parts to replace myself. This was in Atascadero. ( Mid State):mad:

[gitair]

Tige has respoded to my email questions about seat warranty. They will SELL skins at a discount or send me fabric to have the seats recovered. I am not happy with this warranty. Does Chevy, when your paint needs warranty work, send you a gallon of paint? I thought the interior was covered by a five year warranty? Can anyone help?

[Matt Garcia]

I am not speaking on behalf of Tige but did your seats tear at the seams? If so, I am not sure if that falls under the stiching warranty, which is one year. I know the vinyl itself has a five year warranty.

Have you checked the warranties on the downloads section?

http://www.tigeowners.com/warranties.shtml

[Domsz06]

I guess I need to go check my seats. I haven't noticed anything yet and I have over 110 hours on my 03.

Dom

[Gardyloo03]

i have an 04 22v riders and ive had the boat since august this year and im already having vinyl issues and seams blowing on me. i use this boat alot, since i got it i have put over 100 hours on it, but i think that these issues shouldnt come to light for years. i have owned 4 other boats and never had these problems so early. This is just one of many little details of things that were wrong with my boat after recieving it under conditions of purchase that it was "lake ready".

[poohpotta]

Gardyloo03 That sure isn't good news to hear, I have a 2004 22V as well and the seams are fine.

[Tige M.D.]

gitair,

sounds like the atascadero dealer did do you wrong. but, atascadero is actually central california, not southern california.

if you need any help call me in so. ca.

tige m.d.
951/737-9801

[JShirey]

I have a 03 22v with 180 hours on it. And I am not gentle with crawling in and out of it. I have had no problems with seams tearing on my interior. However, I was told by my dealer, thats the reason for the new split seat design. He told me its caused from stepping in and out of the boat and standing on the seam.

I wouldnt say that the design was bad. I think that it just may be a week area. Try not standing on the seats. Step all the way in the boat.

[Tequilasun]

I know this not much help to those of you with these issues, but Tige has taken steps to help with this problem. Take a look at the 05 seat design, it should be very difficult to rip the seats at the seams.

[norcalatver]

I thought my '97 22V was bad as the seats just started tearing with almost 500hrs. on the boat! I feel lucky now! I am the original owner and the boat has always been garaged.
BTW, I absolutely love my TIGE'! Other than the 10 year old vinyl tearing, (and the pos gauges), I've had no problems!
Does anyone know where I can get replacement skins for a decent price? I contacted my local dealer and they wanted $1,500.00 just for the rear seat covers and the engine cover. No labor was included in that quote. thanks:)

[norcalatver]

The vinyl is just starting to tear in my '97 22V with 500hrs. Does anyone know of a reasonable place to purchase replacement skins? I called my local dealer and they wanted $1,500.00 just for the rear seat covers and the engine cover. No labor included.
BTW, I love my Tige' I am the original owner and have had only two problems. The pos gauges and the pos adjustment for the shaft that enters the water. After having those replaced years ago, I've had absolutely no other isues. :)

[hoopykat]

gitair-

Tri Valley Marine in Livermore is a Tigé dealer...might want to give them a shout...save you a couple hours trip to Sacto.

925-371-5456

Mike

[dcsnowwake]

My rz2 is starting to split at the seams

[AustinSouthSide]

My 04' is splitting at the seams also. At first it was only one seat, the corner behind the driver, but at the end of last season it got worse and the other side started splitting. I did a full detail on the boat this weekend (since all the damn lakes are closed in Austin) and really got to take a look at it and it really has me worried. I would argue this is still a workmanship vinyl issue as that is what is tearing, not the seams. Either way I agree that the seats were overstuffed and that is the real root cause. They are comfortable, that is for sure. I am going to contact Tige on this also to see if this is covered under the 5 year vinyl warranty. Still love my Tige, especially now that I got it all cleaned up and looking pretty!

[dogbert]

Mine started having the same issue last season. The real problem is that there's stitching on the seat cushion and when people step into the boat, it's hard on the seats. The RZ2 & Ves now have reversible cushions in the corners to avoid that. I'm thinking of taking out my center back cushion and putting gatorgrip on the fiberglass underneath so when people do step into the boat, they step down on that instead of my cushions.

My front cushions have no seams in the middle and they are in great shape even tho most people step into my boat from the front when we pick them up from the dock. So it's really just riders/swimmers coming over the back sundeck that's causing the problem.

AustinSouthSide, Charlie at the Ski Dock says they have an upholstry guy who does really nice work and can match whatever you have and it will be better quality. He said to wait until the winter time when the guy's desparate for business to save money.

[Ruune]

My rz2 is starting to split at the seams

I'll bet I know exactly where- in the back, right were the edge roll meets the main panel area? I believe theres a dark silverish color on the roll in part of this area. I took one look at that and it had 2003-2004 written all over it. You'd think Tigé would learn to double stitch this seam.

[dcsnowwake]

I'll bet I know exactly where- in the back, right were the edge roll meets the main panel area? I believe theres a dark silverish color on the roll in part of this area. I took one look at that and it had 2003-2004 written all over it. You'd think Tigé would learn to double stitch this seam.

BINGO!
plus near the storage at the passenger side. its pulling away from the gray wrap around

also everyone with the center bow cusion, take a look and you will see it rubs the corners near the walkthrough, so now it looks worn.

[talltigeguy]

Does someone have pics of what we are talking about here?

I would like to know where the Tige engineers have gone. I fell in love with Tige in 2001 after seeing that a genius at Tige designed the TAPS and convex hull. It seems that we now have less intelligent people designing a few parts of the boat...not to hijack the thread, but things like the bimini on new boats won't fit 8 inch speakers, the batteries that take up all the storage space in the port storage locker, the way the swimstep cuts into the wake at surfing speeds...I will be test driving an RZ2 or RZ4 on July 24, they will have to convince me that I should dump thousands for a new boat because it is better. Sorry, rant over. I didn't get enough sleep last night.

[Ruune]

Does someone have pics of what we are talking about here?

I would like to know where the Tige engineers have gone. I fell in love with Tige in 2001 after seeing that a genius at Tige designed the TAPS and convex hull. It seems that we now have less intelligent people designing a few parts of the boat...not to hijack the thread, but things like the bimini on new boats won't fit 8 inch speakers, the batteries that take up all the storage space in the port storage locker, the way the swimstep cuts into the wake at surfing speeds...I will be test driving an RZ2 or RZ4 on July 24, they will have to convince me that I should dump thousands for a new boat because it is better. Sorry, rant over. I didn't get enough sleep last night.

its a bit hard for them to foresee every problem- there will always be issues with new designs. Still, its a bit disconcerting that they reverted back to the same design that caused problems in '03-'04. I was looking at the same spot as above and indicated that if I opt for an Rz2 over the 22ve that I'd require that seam (amongst others) be double stitched. They said that could probably be arranged.

By double-stitching, I mean that they should overlap the seam enough to where theres an additional stitching on each side of the main seam, and both "extra" stitches should go through both layers of fabric. Possibly even have an additional strip of vinyl added below and included in the stitch. This would allow for a reinforced seam, dispersing the stress over a wider area. In addition to the added strength, this would allow more "give" for more flexibility... wherein part of the additional strength lies.

There... now is everyone thoroughly confused? :D

Oh yeah- To you guys at Tigé, I'm available for "beta testing" :D :ro: :D :ro: :D

[gitair]

I believe Tige's warrenty is 5 years on Vinyl.

[Ruune]

its three years on vinyl. One year on stitching.

[dogbert]

As for the swim platform, they just need an adjustable one, preferrably adjustable by the driver (kinda like my TAPS plate). I know they have gone with the oversized platforms to accommodate the wider wakeboards, but now that wakesurfing is taking off, it seems like we need a smaller one that doesn't get in the way.

Alternatively, how about one that has a hinge on it that allows it to fold in half?

[Matt Garcia]

BINGO!
plus near the storage at the passenger side. its pulling away from the gray wrap around

also everyone with the center bow cusion, take a look and you will see it rubs the corners near the walkthrough, so now it looks worn.

Great. I'll have to take a look at mine now. :(

[G-MONEY]

Alternatively, how about one that has a hinge on it that allows it to fold in
half?


What about a 6" section on each side..........

[Ruune]

honestly, I really dont have the same problem on my 22v's swim platform. When I have the boat weighted, the curve of the platform exactly follows the inside line of where the water curves inward, from the hull.

Thats with 540lbs in the front, plus 350 on each side in the rear, and TAPS all the way down. The boat basically rolls over to the left side.

[Matt Garcia]

I am not sure if its the platform or not. I can dial a good surf wave on the port side with no washy lip. The starboard side is the side that is tricky for me, maybe its because of the prop wash or the speed but it takes more work than the port side to get a clean wave. I can get rid of the lip on the starboard side if I speed it up a bit but I loose my deep pocket. However I tend to wakeboard more than I surf so I havent spend much time trying to dial it in.

[G-MONEY]

We never had a problem, but after they replaced our "TEAK" swim-step (because it warped after 8 months) it now hits the water when we surf and it's not as long as the old one.:mad:

[G-MONEY]

Just think you could extend the swim-step alot wider past the boat when you're just hanging out or putting on your board, then a flip of a switch flip in come the sides and go.

[dogbert]

Either that or have the entire platform go up and down, kinda like they have on the motor of those bay boats for fishing :ro:

[wakeboarder247]

I am not sure if its the platform or not. I can dial a good surf wave on the port side with no washy lip. The starboard side is the side that is tricky for me, maybe its because of the prop wash or the speed but it takes more work than the port side to get a clean wave. I can get rid of the lip on the starboard side if I speed it up a bit but I loose my deep pocket. However I tend to wakeboard more than I surf so I havent spend much time trying to dial it in.

Am I the only one who has trouble dialing in the PORT side wake for wakesurfing? I can get the starboard side to curl beautifully, but the port side takes more work for me. I like it b/c I ride goofy but I swear the starboard side is way better than the port side..

[G-MONEY]

Just think you could extend the swim-step alot wider past the boat when you're just hanging out or putting on your board, then a flip of a switch flip in come the sides and go.

Like this.......

[G-MONEY]

sorry it's so small I copied it over from CAD

[dogbert]

Like this.......

Oh, cool, swim platform origami :D :D