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I hope other manufacturers (Specially TIGE) will follow CorrectCraft on this.
He also mentioned Life Time Hull warranty. Is that true?
http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=788&s=News20080423
chpthril
04-23-2008, 04:04 PM
5 yr transferable, parts and labor, no deductable.
Dont know about Lifetime Hull.
*EDIT* Yes on the Lifetime Hull Warranty
Timmy!
04-23-2008, 04:05 PM
I'm sure for the price difference between a CC and a Tige you could buy an extended warranty in there....
I'm sure for the price difference between a CC and a Tige you could buy an extended warranty in there....
I am not bashing on Tige, I just wish this was the industry standard.
CorrectCraft's boat would still cost the same if had a 3 year warranty instead of 5. It is more of a marketing strategy just like Dodge did with their increase waranty.
I have friends that bought dodges for the only reason that they got a life time warranty
da.bell
04-23-2008, 04:10 PM
Yes, the lifetime hull warranty is great and the regular warranty is two years more than Tige offers. IMO, very nice warranty... :ro: :ro: :ro:
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 05:01 PM
Tige's warranty is the one reason I would not consider buying a tige again. There seems to be so much made of the lifetime hull warranty and how they will replace the boat.....and how they have never had to replace a boat. Well, if you read the various warranties, they are not that great. The one year warranty for parts and components is only good for the original owner. This is the same for all of the other warranties. There is an exception for the hull warranty but the warranty conditions change so that they will only fix the boat and not replace it. In my mind, Tige sells their boat on how tough their boat is and how great their warranty is but in reality unless you are the original purchaser, you are screwed (http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6471)
I have two points regarding this issue. First, boat owners fall into 3 classes. The first class consists of guys that always upgrade and sell every two years or so. I have seen Tige boats for sale claiming that they are under warranty but they are not once the boat is for sale. I was one of those persons that fell for this and did not read the fne print. I would be carefull if you are selling a Tige and claiming it is under warranty because it is probably not and a buyer could come back after you in a civil case. It also devalues their product if the warranty can't be transferred. Would you buy a ford if the warranty was suddenly not transferrable? No, you would probably look at a different maker. My old boat was a sea ray and the warranty was 100% transferrable which becomes a sales tool.
The second class consists of people that buy a used boat. If you fall into this group, you are screwed.
The third group buys a boat and keeps it forever. This is the only group protected by the tige warranty.
If Tige does not change this, I will look at different brands when I buy next year. I veiw a warranty as insurance and being a second owner, I am screwed.
I bought a used Tige because I liked them and wanted to try one out before I bought a new one but after discovering their policy I would not want to screw someone else and I know I wont hold onto the boat for more than three years.
FacePlant
04-23-2008, 06:01 PM
I understand your frustration about the warranty not being transferable. Is it possible to buy one from your insurance carrier or something at a reasonable price?
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 06:21 PM
I have no idea if they do it. I would rather just buy a boat where the manufacturer stands behind the product and offers a tranferrable warranty especially when they claim they have the best or toughest boat made. I really have no idea why Tige would do this and when I called and asked, I was not given a reason. People, to their detriment, just assume that all of the various warranties are transferrable because almost every other product manufacturer does allows it. Hopefully, they change their policy as I like the boat and the local dealer.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Okay, my ignorance here.
The $500 transfer cost is for the engine? I know you can transfer the hull warranty to the next owner but now I am unclean what the $500 is for.
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 06:30 PM
I understand your frustration about the warranty not being transferable. Is it possible to buy one from your insurance carrier or something at a reasonable price?
I did check but they limited companies that sell these dont sell them in California and Florida.
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 06:40 PM
Okay, my ignorance here.
The $500 transfer cost is for the engine? I know you can transfer the hull warranty to the next owner but now I am unclean what the $500 is for.
There is a transfer cost for every warranty. The hull warranty for a used boat may only be transferred once and tranforms from a lifetime warranty to a 10 year policy. However, the time starts from the date the boat was sold so if you are selling a ten year old boat, it does not have any warranty left on it. So when Tige claims they have never replaced a boat that does not mean a claim has never been made as I am sure that most boats have changed hands.
There is a transfer cost for every warranty. The hull warranty for a used boat may only be transferred once and tranforms from a lifetime warranty to a 10 year policy. However, the time starts from the date the boat was sold so if you are selling a ten year old boat, it does not have any warranty left on it. So when Tige claims they have never replaced a boat that does not mean a claim has never been made as I am sure that most boats have changed hands.
Sounds like a very secure way to never have a claim. :02:
talltigeguy
04-23-2008, 07:05 PM
Bandsecurity,
Thanks for bringing that up. I would like to hear from someone who has the knowledge of the fine print (Harvey, maybe CHPthrl knows) to make sure this is true information here. These types of threads get a little frustrating to me because it seems that I get 4-5 different opinions that all disagree, all from reasonable people.
EKS,
I disagree completely on what you say that a boat with a 3 year warranty would cost the same as a 5 year warranty...The manufacturer then absorbs the cost of the repairs that happen in years 4 and 5. That cost has to go somewhere.
chpthril
04-23-2008, 07:34 PM
Bandsecurity,
Thanks for bringing that up. I would like to hear from someone who has the knowledge of the fine print (Harvey, maybe CHPthrl knows) to make sure this is true information here. These types of threads get a little frustrating to me because it seems that I get 4-5 different opinions that all disagree, all from reasonable people.
EKS,
I disagree completely on what you say that a boat with a 3 year warranty would cost the same as a 5 year warranty...The manufacturer then absorbs the cost of the repairs that happen in years 4 and 5. That cost has to go somewhere.
Well, now that I work for my dealer (selling Tiges and others), I need to be carefull on what I comment on.
I do believe that all buyers, new and used, should be versed in the fine print and not assume anything. Buyer beware, especialy used.
Warrany on anything is built into the cost paid by the consumer. It's the law of large numbers. Id say that the avg number of yrs a boat is kept by the first owner, far excedes the factory warranty :02:
Bandsecurity,
Thanks for bringing that up. I would like to hear from someone who has the knowledge of the fine print (Harvey, maybe CHPthrl knows) to make sure this is true information here. These types of threads get a little frustrating to me because it seems that I get 4-5 different opinions that all disagree, all from reasonable people.
EKS,
I disagree completely on what you say that a boat with a 3 year warranty would cost the same as a 5 year warranty...The manufacturer then absorbs the cost of the repairs that happen in years 4 and 5. That cost has to go somewhere.
Tige used to offer only one year warranty on the engines, now they offer 3 years, we are paying more now just to cover the cost of the warranty?
It might even be the case, my point is, when companies market their product as the one of the best and most reliable on the market, warranty is a good way to prove it. Just as they did with the warranty of the hull.
If many claims are filed, processes will need readjustment to maximize profit. When a warranty goes just enough not to have any or very little claims, what is the need for product quality improvement?
Don't get me wrong, I love how prompt Tige is to fix any warranty issues. "Heck", my boat is back at the shop for the third time in 3 months of use and they are taking care of me. I like Tige warranty, but more would tell me that they are committed to quality and improvements.
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 07:40 PM
The warranty information is found on this site in the download section and I called Harvey and spoke directly to him. I agree that people sometimes respond with misinformed opinions but in this case please read it yourself. The language is very clear:
Limited Transferability Fiberglass Warranty Form
Laminated construction of the hull is warranted to the original retail purchaser for as long as the Tigé boat is owned by original retail purchaser (see exclusions on Limited Life Plus Warranty), if the signed Pre-Delivery Inspection / Owner’s Registration Form is completed and submitted to the manufacturer at time of delivery. The second owner can purchase the Limited Structural Fiberglass Warranty for a cost of $350.00 payable to Tigé Boats, Inc. (This will cover the second owner to have any structural failures proven by Tigé to be repaired at no cost to the documented second owner). The documented second owner is not eligible for the new Tigé boat, only authorized repairs. This Limited Transferability Warranty is for a period of ten years from date of purchase by the original owner. For example: First owner sells boat after three years ownership, the second owner can purchase the hull warranty for the remaining seven years. This form will be completed and filed within twenty (20) days of title transfer.
One year Warranty:
Guys, I wish this was different but I don’t want get you to get sued if you are selling your boat “under warranty” and I am disappointed in myself for not doing due diligence when I bought my boat. Even the dealers assume that the warranties are transferable until they call Harvey. I like the boat and the brand but cant believe that Tige believes it can compete with the big boys when the warranty is overly limited and not at industry standard.
Trust me, I wish the facts were different.
chpthril
04-23-2008, 07:47 PM
BandS,
What is the Industry Std? When Tige stepped up to a 3yr bow to stern warranty, I dont rememmber but a couple being same or longer? I think the othes have stepped up on thiers since.
Tige was the first to offer a Life Time hull warranty if I'm not mistaken.
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Well, now that I work for my dealer (selling Tiges and others), I need to be carefull on what I comment on.
I do believe that all buyers, new and used, should be versed in the fine print and not assume anything. Buyer beware, especialy used.
Warrany on anything is built into the cost paid by the consumer. It's the law of large numbers. Id say that the avg number of yrs a boat is kept by the first owner, far excedes the factory warranty :02:
So what you are saying by not answering the question is that the Tige warranty is extremely limited and only the hull warranty can be transferred and that upon transfer it switches from lifetime to a maximum of 10 years.
When you say buyer beware you should really say seller beware because people on this site are selling boats "with warranty" but that is impossible if the warranties dont transfer. Someone will eventually get sued and that is part of my frustration.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 07:50 PM
I think that the issue here is that Tige was once the leader in warranty but is now being passed by the big three. New models mean new policies. :02:
Take the gelcoat issues from Tige. The 2008's have a 3 year warranty while other years only have a 1 year warranty.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 07:52 PM
Band, I checked my listings to make sure I didn't have any comments about the hull warranty. My listings do have something regarding the engine warranty along with the extended warranty. But again, I didn't know a lot about the warranty issues until this year and I am still learning them.
So, my new RZ2 will be kept for a long, long time.... ;)
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 07:56 PM
BandS,
What is the Industry Std? When Tige stepped up to a 3yr bow to stern warranty, I dont rememmber but a couple being same or longer? I think the othes have stepped up on thiers since.
Tige was the first to offer a Life Time hull warranty if I'm not mistaken.
It is not a lifetime hull warranty unless you (read:one person) owns a boat for their lifetime. It is a ten year warranty if the boat is sold to a second owner. Further, all of the other warranties are limited to the original purchaser. These documents are on this site. The industry standard varies but almost all manfactures have a lifetime hull warranty. Further, it is the fact the selling the boat essiantially modifies or voids the warranties depending upon which one your talking about.
In 05, Centurion and MB (I am not sure about BU and MC) boats already offered 3 years. I know because that was one of the factors that I almost didn't buy a Tige. The engine warranty back then was only 1 year.
Never had a problem with it! Loved that boat to the point that I bought my second last year.
chpthril
04-23-2008, 07:59 PM
So what you are saying by not answering the question is that the Tige warranty is extremely limited and only the hull warranty can be transferred and that upon transfer it switches from lifetime to a maximum of 10 years.
When you say buyer beware you should really say seller beware because people on this site are selling boats "with warranty" but that is impossible if the warranties dont transfer. Someone will eventually get sued and that is part of my frustration.
Dont type words in my mouth :D I'm not answering anything, by not answering anything, Just commenting on the thread.
The Marine Power warranty I believe is transferable. A Hull Warranty is transferable, so if a private person and or dealer says the boat has "warranty" it's not a fales statement and is up to the buyer to clearify what is covered. :02:
da.bell
04-23-2008, 08:02 PM
Dont type words in my mouth :D I'm not answering anything, by not answering anything, Just commenting on the thread.
The Marine Power warranty I believe is transferable. A Hull Warranty is transferable, so if a private person and or dealer says the boat has "warranty" it's not a fales statement and is up to the buyer to clearify what is covered. :02:
Transferable with a fee that they just increased this year. ;)
The hull is transferable but from what I understand, it is only good for 10 years from original purchase date. So it isn't a lifetime warranty anymore. :02:
chpthril
04-23-2008, 08:03 PM
It is not a lifetime hull warranty unless you (read:one person) owns a boat for their lifetime. It is a ten year warranty if the boat is sold to a second owner. Further, all of the other warranties are limited to the original purchaser. These documents are on this site. The industry standard varies but almost all manfactures have a lifetime hull warranty. Further, it is the fact the selling the boat essiantially modifies or voids the warranties depending upon which one your talking about.
Well, It's a lifetime warranty for me, because thats who I bought the boat for!
On the positive side, I do want to say that Tige is definably one of the best, if not the best, about the promptness of fixing warranty issues.
I owned a 4Winns before and every little thing it took months to get resolved.
Go Tige!
chpthril
04-23-2008, 08:06 PM
The Marine Power warranty I believe is transferable. A Hull Warranty is transferable, so if a private person and or dealer says the boat has "warranty" it's not a fales statement and is up to the buyer to clearify what is covered
Transferable with a fee that they just increased this year. ;)
The hull is transferable but from what I understand, it is only good for 10 years from original purchase date. So it isn't a lifetime warranty anymore. :02:
But It was a lifetime to you, the original owner, and now a limited warranty for owner #2, not lifetime, but still a warranty, am I wrong :confused:
da.bell
04-23-2008, 08:08 PM
You are right.... :ro: However, the person who purchase my 24Ve will have it for another 8 years. More than enough time to see what happens... :02: God forbide that anything does but again, I really have doubts that anything will happen.
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 08:09 PM
Dont type words in my mouth :D I'm not answering anything, by not answering anything, Just commenting on the thread.
The Marine Power warranty I believe is transferable. A Hull Warranty is transferable, so if a private person and or dealer says the boat has "warranty" it's not a fales statement and is up to the buyer to clearify what is covered. :02:
I am sorry but you said it so perfectly by saying buyer beware becase that is so true. But evententually you will sell your boat and wouldn't be great that if you sold your boat that honestly say it is under warranty. I agree that it is the sellers responsibility to carefully list what is being sold but most are not informed. I am guessing here but I would argue that most people did not know that the lifetime hull warranty becomes a 10 year warranty when sold. I just wish things were different warranty wise and that I had done due diligence prior to buying my boat. Not that I dont like it but I might have made a different decision had I known all of the facts.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 08:12 PM
I think we all would have done that Band... :02:
But again, when I purchased my 24Ve, I had no intentions of selling it what-so-ever. It just happened to be that my RZ2 was "given" to me by Tige for an excellent price that I couldn't resist. ;)
I don't think anyone here buys a boat with the intentions of selling it within their lifetime (20 years).
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 08:35 PM
I think we all would have done that Band... :02:
But again, when I purchased my 24Ve, I had no intentions of selling it what-so-ever. It just happened to be that my RZ2 was "given" to me by Tige for an excellent price that I couldn't resist. ;)
I don't think anyone here buys a boat with the intentions of selling it within their lifetime (20 years).
I would disagree with that last statement. There are a lot of people here that are always looking to upgrade and as they keep making changes to the models there will be that enticement to get the new model. We all hit the boat show every year if you know what I mean. And look how often we sell our vehicles and they are built much better than a boat.
No big deal, I just hope everyone has a better understanding about their warranties now and can make an informed decision.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 08:36 PM
I am a lot more aware today than I was yesterday... thanks :ro: :ro: :ro:
chpthril
04-23-2008, 08:37 PM
I can say I'm a little more versed now :ro:
I did check but they limited companies that sell these dont sell them in California and Florida.
you can by a aftermarket warranty in Fl all day every day. they were in today asking us to take a look at what they had to offer. i have repaired boats that have been covered by these warranties. (IN FLA) so not quite sure were you info came from but they got them here in FLA.
Tanner
04-23-2008, 10:52 PM
Is it the photography or does the guy's forehead make him look like ******** from Beavis and ********?
I don't think it is the photography! :ro:
talltigeguy
04-23-2008, 11:16 PM
Tige used to offer only one year warranty on the engines, now they offer 3 years, we are paying more now just to cover the cost of the warranty?
Absolutely, definitely.
I am guessing here but I would argue that most people did not know that the lifetime hull warranty becomes a 10 year warranty when sold.
I did not know that until today.
I don't think anyone here buys a boat with the intentions of selling it within their lifetime (20 years).
Band gave a nice synopsis of the three types of boat buyers, and one of them is the guy who always wants a new boat. I was on a 3 year plan with the boat I currently have...now it has been 3.5 years. I will probably stick with it, but I am looking pretty hard this summer.
da.bell
04-23-2008, 11:21 PM
Band gave a nice synopsis of the three types of boat buyers, and one of them is the guy who always wants a new boat. I was on a 3 year plan with the boat I currently have...now it has been 3.5 years. I will probably stick with it, but I am looking pretty hard this summer.
RZ4???????????? :D
Bandsecurity
04-23-2008, 11:41 PM
you can by a aftermarket warranty in Fl all day every day. they were in today asking us to take a look at what they had to offer. i have repaired boats that have been covered by these warranties. (IN FLA) so not quite sure were you info came from but they got them here in FLA.
Best Rate Financial Services 888-998-8003 is the company I called. Were those original or second purchasers? However, the issue is not so much that I could buy a warranty but that the Tige warranty voids/changes if the boat is sold. If you were trying to sell a used tige and you told a potential buyer that there was not a warranty or that the warranty was limited but that he could purchase a warranty online, what do think he do? Two things, find a different brand boat or ask you to reduce the cost of the boat by the warranty price. Either way, the seller ends up the loser.
Absolutely, definitely.
If this logic is correct, with the economic the way it is and people are not buying boats as much, prices already start falling. That means that Tige will reduce the warranty? There is more than just warranty to make the price of a boat.
Like I said before, I know that more warranty cost more "IF THE PRODUCT NEEDS IT". I do not believe that Tige's "LifePlus Lifetime Replacement Warranty" cost more because they never have to pay up. If the boat quality is such that never comes back for warranty services, their is no extra cost.
All I am saying is that each manufacturer has a buffer on its profit and to make it a more competitive product they might have to cut the profit and offer more warranty to get a competitive advantage. Or add an extra feature to attract the customer, there are many ways to change customer perception of the product.
Hyundai did that with their 10 year warranty to enter the US market. Dodge started the Lifetime warranty to get an advantage over the competitors. And prices did not go up. Same car, same price, different warranty = Smaller margin of profit and competitive advantage.
You can get for a fee extra warranty on any boat out there , is there any advantage to a transferable warranty ? Would you have an easyer time selling your used boat because it has a transferable warranty / if so are you infering that you will need it because it is prone to problems, I used to own a pro air nautique which I bought new , I had mulitiple problems while under warrantee 3 sets of guages tach and speedo at 200.00 per pair all covered but after the third set I felt who is going to pay after warrantee is gone. I sold the boat bought a 2004 tige 600hrs latter with no issues . I personally dont buy a boat for what is covered but what I perceive as the best value with dependability and fits what my family likes to do which in my case is tournament show skiing, barefoot and more.
Bandsecurity
04-24-2008, 01:39 PM
You can get for a fee extra warranty on any boat out there , is there any advantage to a transferable warranty ? Would you have an easyer time selling your used boat because it has a transferable warranty / if so are you infering that you will need it because it is prone to problems, I used to own a pro air nautique which I bought new , I had mulitiple problems while under warrantee 3 sets of guages tach and speedo at 200.00 per pair all covered but after the third set I felt who is going to pay after warrantee is gone. I sold the boat bought a 2004 tige 600hrs latter with no issues . I personally dont buy a boat for what is covered but what I perceive as the best value with dependability and fits what my family likes to do which in my case is tournament show skiing, barefoot and more.
If you are a regular reader of this discussion board there are many people the experience problems with their boats w/ in 3 years of ownership, from the Taps system, to the engine(dip sticks), gel coat cracking, guages etc...Are these issues unique to Tige, probably not, but they still happen on a regular basis. A warranty is an insurance policy against those defects and is one thing that is important to me and probably not so important to Tige if they essentially void or substantially change their warranty if the boat is sold. When you are spending $40-60K maybe you have different expectations than when you spend $25-30k or if you are buying a boat that is new or 1 year old versus 5 or 6 years old.
talltigeguy
04-24-2008, 07:05 PM
RZ4???????????? :D
I just dumped a bunch of money to finishing my yard and fencing it all in. So now I have to find more money in order to make this happen. With prices the way things are...the local boat shop offered a friend of mine (directly referred by me) 73K for an RZ4 that was nicely loaded. I hope to get a better deal than that as that it is my 3rd boat from the same dealer, but that price is out of my ballpark and league both. Boating is a big priority, but I am having second thoughts when I could just keep the boat I have and continue to baby her. I might go to an RZ2 actually. Do you miss the space from the 24Ve?
If this logic is correct, with the economic the way it is and people are not buying boats as much, prices already start falling. That means that Tige will reduce the warranty? There is more than just warranty to make the price of a boat.
Like I said before, I know that more warranty cost more "IF THE PRODUCT NEEDS IT". I do not believe that Tige's "LifePlus Lifetime Replacement Warranty" cost more because they never have to pay up. If the boat quality is such that never comes back for warranty services, their is no extra cost.
All I am saying is that each manufacturer has a buffer on its profit and to make it a more competitive product they might have to cut the profit and offer more warranty to get a competitive advantage. Or add an extra feature to attract the customer, there are many ways to change customer perception of the product.
That means that someone has to pay for the warranty, either you and me, or them in their profit margin. I don't really think they are looking out for you and me.
Tige has never had to replace a hull, but it is clear to me that they are making sure they never have to. Is there anyone on this board who was the original owner of a boat that is more than 10 years old? I bet there are only a handful that have had their boat more than 6-7 years as the original owners.
da.bell
04-24-2008, 07:10 PM
I just dumped a bunch of money to finishing my yard and fencing it all in. So now I have to find more money in order to make this happen. With prices the way things are...the local boat shop offered a friend of mine (directly referred by me) 73K for an RZ4 that was nicely loaded. I hope to get a better deal than that as that it is my 3rd boat from the same dealer, but that price is out of my ballpark and league both. Boating is a big priority, but I am having second thoughts when I could just keep the boat I have and continue to baby her. I might go to an RZ2 actually. Do you miss the space from the 24Ve?
So far, I don't miss the space at all. Actually, the boat seems a lot wider than the 24Ve. The number of passengers that the RZ2 says is 15 while the 24Ve was 16. So, 1 person difference IMO does not make the 24Ve better but I can tell you that the RZ2 performs A LOT better than the 24Ve... :ro:
dogbert
04-24-2008, 07:10 PM
Tige has never had to replace a hull, but it is clear to me that they are making sure they never have to. Is there anyone on this board who was the original owner of a boat that is more than 10 years old? I bet there are only a handful that have had their boat more than 6-7 years as the original owners.
By this time next year, it will be 10 years for me, but you're right, I'm probably in the minority. Most of that is that Tige was a much smaller company when I bought my boat.
As for the warranty issue, I think it's probably the same reason you don't see many used car warranties. After the original owner, you'll have a tough time figuring out what, if anything happened to the boat during its lifetime and therefore a warranty is tough to guarantee.
That means that someone has to pay for the warranty, either you and me, or them in their profit margin. I don't really think they are looking out for you and me.
Tige has never had to replace a hull, but it is clear to me that they are making sure they never have to. Is there anyone on this board who was the original owner of a boat that is more than 10 years old? I bet there are only a handful that have had their boat more than 6-7 years as the original owners.
That is exactly my point, if the boat is built well enough their is no increase in cost of extra warranty. No claims = no increase in cost. But again, to achieve this goal, higher quality is necessary.
im not sure i have ever had anybody ask me looking at a used boat is it under warranty. they are buying a used boat and dont expect to be under warranty. if warranty is that important to them they would be buying new. part of buying a used boat is fixing up some things its USED you just need to have boat checked out and find out if your going to be in for a few 100 or a few 1000 to make sure you are getting the boat at the right price.
TeamAllen
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
I'm one of the minority, with purchasing my boat new 11 years ago.
I look at the Warranty like a car. If I was buying one from a dealer you are paying a premium price anyway. They have the ability to inspect it and make repairs before and after sale. I might want some level of comfort, with a warranty of some kind, from the "expert" dealer.
From a private party, inspect it completely by yourself or a shop.:02:
Bandsecurity
04-25-2008, 02:22 PM
im not sure i have ever had anybody ask me looking at a used boat is it under warranty. they are buying a used boat and dont expect to be under warranty. if warranty is that important to them they would be buying new. part of buying a used boat is fixing up some things its USED you just need to have boat checked out and find out if your going to be in for a few 100 or a few 1000 to make sure you are getting the boat at the right price.
If you are buying a boat that is 10 months old with 19 hours, most reasonable people would assume that the various warranties carry over. I am confident that this is not an unreasonable supposition. I think that most people buying a newer boat (2 to 3 years) would agree. If you are buying a boat that is 5 or 10 years old, it is probably is a different story.
talltigeguy
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
If you are buying a boat that is 10 months old with 19 hours, most reasonable people would assume that the various warranties carry over. I am confident that this is not an unreasonable supposition. I think that most people buying a newer boat (2 to 3 years) would agree. If you are buying a boat that is 5 or 10 years old, it is probably is a different story.
Agreed.
talltigeguy
04-25-2008, 02:35 PM
A search on Boattrader for Tige and Warranty came up with this:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2007-Tige-20V-92580027
He thinks his warranty is transferrable...is he right?
chpthril
04-25-2008, 02:50 PM
A search on Boattrader for Tige and Warranty came up with this:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2007-Tige-20V-92580027
He thinks his warranty is transferrable...is he right?
That's one of our customers!!!
talltigeguy
04-25-2008, 02:52 PM
That's one of our customers!!!
The blue and black is a pretty good choice of colors, BTW.
Maybe he needs some clarification of what the warranty is like for the next guy?
chpthril
04-25-2008, 03:02 PM
The blue and black is a pretty good choice of colors, BTW.
Maybe he needs some clarification of what the warranty is like for the next guy?
Possibly. Its clear in the lit, that the Engine Warranty is transferable, for a fee, and some form of limited Hull Warranty is transferable, but not clear on the Bow to Stern Warranty. I'll see what I can find out.
Bandsecurity
04-25-2008, 03:16 PM
He has a very nice boat.
The Tige warranties are generally not transferrable. I have heard that some dealers will sell you a transferrable warranty but this is not offered througg Tige and generally costs a couple grand.
da.bell
04-25-2008, 03:18 PM
That engine warranty is transferable for $500 but as Band says, I am not sure who takes over the responsibility.
Bandsecurity
04-25-2008, 03:50 PM
A search on Boattrader for Tige and Warranty came up with this:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2007-Tige-20V-92580027
He thinks his warranty is transferrable...is he right?
This is the exact type of situation I found myself when I bought my boat. Most people that by a boat new will assume that a warranty will transfer over if they decide to sell the boat it within a year to three to five. Why shouldn’t they, it does for a Chevy, a rolex and a toaster over. Further, the warranties from the premium boat manufacturers are transferable. If Tige wants to be in this company, they will need to offer the same type of warranty. There is not a logical reason to not allow the warranty to transfer. If you build a quality product with quality components, it shouldn’t matter if the boat is sold or not. Finally, a warranty is important when buying a used boat and the sellers recognize this as every ad states that the boat is under warranty.
I do not understand why some people on this discussion board would seemingly support Tige’s stance to limit their warranties to the original purchaser. It benefits no one. However, to allow the warranty to transfer costs you zero if the boat is well built. Think about it.
Guest
04-25-2008, 06:06 PM
Isn't the Limited Waranty posted as a PDF file out of date. It states one year not three.
What bothers me in the warranty is all the non-Tige manufactured parts exclusion. It looks as if they are excluding all Tige non-manufactured parts.:eek:
What does the current warranty say?:(
meicher28
04-25-2008, 09:38 PM
This is a very interesting and timely thread. I am in the market for a new or newer used (07) boat and after reading that the Tige warranty does not transfer to a second owner and that the lifetime hull warranty changes to a 10 year warranty if the boat is sold, I must say that I will reconsider purchasing a Tige. I looked at the warranty information on this site and it is in plain English that the warranty does not transfer to a second owner. I know the Malibu warranty may be transferred - http://www.malibuboats.com/images/2008warrantymanual.pdf - and they don’t limit it by the how many times the boat is sold. Plus, they only charge one fee that includes the engine, hull and components. It looks like for a Tige you need to pay a separate fee for the hull, the inside and the engine. Crazy. For a person that is planning to spend $60,000+ on a boat, not having a “sellable” warranty is probably a deal killer for me and anyone else with common sense unless you plan on having that boat for the rest of your life. I have owned a couple of boats before (correct craft and Malibu) but I had heard good things about Tige so I put them in the equation but it looks like I will look at other manufacturers. If they change their policy in the near future, I may come back. I am surprised that no one from Tige has commented on this thread as it will impact sales. I am glad that I did some research and found this thread before I made a bad decision.
dogbert
04-25-2008, 10:05 PM
I am glad that I did some research and found this thread before I made a bad decision.
I guess you didn't read too carefully. Did you miss the part where Teamallen and I have had our boats for many many years without any issues with our hull? :rolleyes:
Also, you can transfer the warranty.
Bandsecurity
04-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Also, you can transfer the warranty.
How and which warranty can be transfered?
I'm sure for the price difference between a CC and a Tige you could buy an extended warranty in there....
3-4 times over i dont understand all this. the money you overpay for that warranty and trust me your PAYING FOR IT you could pay cash for repairs for 5 yrs. most of the repairs i do are little nit picky things that pop up early in first year for most part once they are worked out you are good to go. paying 10k extra for a boat and getting a marginal better warranty is not worth it to me. Tige builds the best boat at best price!! you wont find better bang for the buck in a wake/ski boat period!
Bandsecurity
04-26-2008, 12:45 AM
I agree with you that the first couple of years you will have warranty issues but how are much are you really paying for it? I bought a loaded Chevy truck in 2004 with a 36k mile warranty on it for $38k. That same truck w/ a 100k mile warranty costs the same or less.
If its built well you should not have to worry about it, in my mind. Also, with a warranty or any other insurance like instrument, they model those so that the costs of repairs are factored in over every boat. It doesn't cost as much as you think. Additionally, they do not pay the same rates for shop labor and for repair parts that we do.
36k bumper to bumper.100k powertrain only and the odds of you doing everything required for you to get that warranty repair coverd= slim to none i spent 13yrs in auto repair at dealer level it dont happen very often. if you do everything required to keep that warranty intact the odds that you will have a problem in the first 100k is very slim. its the odds game 99.99% of people do not do the required service to keep warranty good the other .01% the dealer makes enough money off the maintanence required to keep the warranty in tact to repair any problem they have 3 times over. hey wait a minute this is :bs: j/k i didnt come here to talk about trucks.
Bandsecurity
04-26-2008, 01:28 AM
36k bumper to bumper.100k powertrain only and the odds of you doing everything required for you to get that warranty repair coverd= slim to none i spent 13yrs in auto repair at dealer level it dont happen very often. if you do everything required to keep that warranty intact the odds that you will have a problem in the first 100k is very slim. its the odds game 99.99% of people do not do the required service to keep warranty good the other .01% the dealer makes enough money off the maintanence required to keep the warranty in tact to repair any problem they have 3 times over. hey wait a minute this is :bs: j/k i didnt come here to talk about trucks.
I should have put that a brand new truck costs the same amount as the 2004 with a longer warranty.
All I am saying is why cut off a warranty just because it has been sold. It doesn't make sense. They have made the commitment already. The only logical answer is that Tige wants to limit their potential liability for repair cost. I get that. I am sensing from you that you would rather buy a boat w/ out a warranty because it adds cost to the boat. If that is true, how much less would Tige sell you that boat without a warranty? Answer: they would sell it to you at the same price.
My friend KKO, we are different. You buy and hold and I buy and sell. Therefore, we value diffrent items in terms of importance. You have had your boat forever and probably take great care of it. At the same time the cost of a new boat has probably risen since your purchase. And when you buy a new or newer boat for 40 or 60 thousand, most people want the assurance that if the guages, for example go out, that Tige will replace them.
Have a great night
I for one dont care what the warrantee papers say , because if the dealer doesnt do his job and the factory doesnt back the dealer it dont mean squat. I owned a cc , I could sit here and write a list of all the items that were covered by warrantee , example pcm power plant which wins awards 6 years running by JD POWERS , after 4 thermstats 2 water pumps in 140hrs and pcm sayed well it received all of its upgrades so it cant possible overheat yet it did! What good is the warrantee, when the ballast system wouldnt fill unless you were moving and making a left hand turn , and you call the factory and they say thats the they work, what goods the warranttee? when the exhaust rubber flapper falls of every year , and again you call the factory and they say well the material isnt as good as it use to be what good is a paper warrantee ? thats just a small version of my intire experiance with cc and their warrantee . But now in 2004 I buy a tige switchi the cheapest version run it for 4 solid years in competition , hitting docks on hot pick ups, pulling 6 men up on slalomn skis to do barefoot at 5400rpm, pull a 12 girl ballet line from a running start of the dock , and if you care to see it in action its on this site in video form and yet with all that the boat has done it never ONCE HAD A WARRANTEE ISSUE and is still being used every tues night and sat, doing the same thing , so I guess paper is more valuable then function, but not to me!
Bandsecurity
04-26-2008, 02:35 AM
I for one dont care what the warrantee papers say , because if the dealer doesnt do his job and the factory doesnt back the dealer it dont mean squat. I owned a cc , I could sit here and write a list of all the items that were covered by warrantee , example pcm power plant which wins awards 6 years running by JD POWERS , after 4 thermstats 2 water pumps in 140hrs and pcm sayed well it received all of its upgrades so it cant possible overheat yet it did! What good is the warrantee, when the ballast system wouldnt fill unless you were moving and making a left hand turn , and you call the factory and they say thats the they work, what goods the warranttee? when the exhaust rubber flapper falls of every year , and again you call the factory and they say well the material isnt as good as it use to be what good is a paper warrantee ? thats just a small version of my intire experiance with cc and their warrantee . But now in 2004 I buy a tige switchi the cheapest version run it for 4 solid years in competition , hitting docks on hot pick ups, pulling 6 men up on slalomn skis to do barefoot at 5400rpm, pull a 12 girl ballet line from a running start of the dock , and if you care to see it in action its on this site in video form and yet with all that the boat has done it never ONCE HAD A WARRANTEE ISSUE and is still being used every tues night and sat, doing the same thing , so I guess paper is more valuable then function, but not to me!
I cannot agree more with you. The dealer is the most important part of the deal. They make it happen. Capital Water Sports is Sac is awesome and I would take any brand boat there for repair. However, you might be just a tad bit biased as you own a Tige dealership and it appears that KKO works for you. I am sure you guys are great and I assume that you provide steller service to all of your clients. Tige is a great builder, dont get me wrong. I just bought one. I just wish their warranty was on par with the top three. I did not start this thread and other people agree that they wish Tige had a better warranty. It has nothing to do with you or the service you provide. I have seen many complaints on this board about the Tige tower and powder coating and the bimini tops and there has been less emotion. I and others just wish Tige would look at this issue and conform to industry standards.
chpthril
04-26-2008, 02:58 AM
I cannot agree more with you. The dealer is the most important part of the deal. They make it happen. Capital Water Sports is Sac is awesome and I would take any brand boat there for repair. However, you might be just a tad bit biased as you own a Tige dealership and it appears that KKO works for you. I am sure you guys are great and I assume that you provide steller service to all of your clients. Tige is a great builder, dont get me wrong. I just bought one. I just wish their warranty was on par with the top three. I did not start this thread and other people agree that they wish Tige had a better warranty. It has nothing to do with you or the service you provide. I have seen many complaints on this board about the Tige tower and powder coating and the bimini tops and there has been less emotion. I and others just wish Tige would look at this issue and conform to industry standards.
This is the beauty of public forum, unlike some of the others that are controlled by the manufacturer. When a negative thread is posted on others, it is deleted by the factory moderators, but not here :ro:
I know the powder coating is easy to chip on the tower that are lower/raised often, but what tower and bimini warranty issues are you referring to?
Just so everyone knows, after 2 years as a proud Tige owner, I have decided to come onboard with my Tige dealer selling Tiges, as well as CC's Cruiser Yachts, and Campions.
PS, I still think Tige is the best, and it's no longer a biased opinion.
Bandsecurity
04-26-2008, 03:08 AM
This is the beauty of public forum, unlike some of the others that are controlled by the manufacturer. When a negative thread is posted on others, it is deleted by the factory moderators, but not here :ro:
I know the powder coating is easy to chip on the tower that are lower/raised often, but what tower and bimini warranty issues are you referring to?
Just so everyone knows, after 2 years as a proud Tige owner, I have decided to come onboard with my Tige dealer selling Tiges, as well as CC's Cruiser Yachts, and Campions.
PS, I still think Tige is the best, and it's no longer a biased opinion.
You are right. The Z1 is sick.
Sorry, I meant the tower in connection with the powder coating and that the bimini in 07 is difficult relative to other models, not as warranty item but as a complaint. I know that some stock towers have had weld issues with older towers but those have been corrected.
Trust me, I know that boat building is as much science as art so I dont expect perfection but I would like an assurance that tige will stand behind their product and that comes in the form of a warranty.
chpthril
04-26-2008, 03:25 AM
You are right. The Z1 is sick.
Sorry, I meant the tower in connection with the powder coating and that the bimini in 07 is difficult relative to other models, not as warranty item but as a complaint. I know that some stock towers have had weld issues with older towers but those have been corrected.
Trust me, I know that boat building is as much science as art so I dont expect perfection but I would like an assurance that tige will stand behind their product and that comes in the form of a warranty.
I here ya. The power coat is cool, but does chip easy :( , the 06 biminis where pretty good, the 07's are a bi'otch to set up, and I'm not fond of the over-the-tower design of the 08's but they are easier then 07. I would recommend to someone that they leave off the factory bimini, and go with a custom like they want.
Cracking welds were on the first gen Metcraft tower, not used since 01 or so.
Tige does stand behind it's product. I bought from a horrible dealer (no longer a Tige dealer) and if it wasn't for the area Rep Randy, and the folks at the factory...Andrew, Harvey, and Lee, I would not still be a Tige owner, and sure as hell not selling them.
I guess I didnt get my point across , we work on the cc over here all the time even though they are still under said warrantee , we try to remmedy all the issues that these cc owners have not been able to get fixed at a factory level , we have even told them how they can fix the problems that occur ,that they couldnt fix but, in most cases wouldnt fix. Thats why I am saying even though you consider the warrantee to be better, if the factory doesnt stand behind what they have in writting what good is the paper. So if you can transfer a warrantee ,cc warrantee , and they dont take care of an issue did you recieve what you payed for? They can promise you the world but still have to produce it. I became a tige dealer ,and found out at the factory level there were people there that listened when we had any problems and made any necessary adjustments to correct said problem , I had just as many inside people at cc that didnt want to here about how to make something better or correct a particular problem, so again I say if ccs warrantee is the standard to look up to ,I am glad tige doesnt for I want a company behind me that backs up what is in writing and even what issnt in writing and even when some issues are custermer created. And as was said earler no other brand would allow this disscussion to exsist for all to view.
dogbert
04-26-2008, 12:35 PM
I got bored and re-read this entire thread. I had to laugh because at the end of the day we're all arguing about a piece of paper that no one on this board has ever had to invoke because their boat never needed it.
As for transferrable, I would venture to guess that the main reason companies won't transfer a warranty is because their lawyers (or insurance company) told them not to.
I'd listen to FIC, he knows what he's talking about.
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