Trucks- The good bad and the ugly.

[Ks]

Everything trucks, including pics of your current tow rigs.

[Lunchbox]

That is one ugly broad driving that rig...:p :D :p :D

[quick]

Woo Woo...13 mpg highway!:rolleyes:

http://www.f150online.com/galleries/images/7794-15002-204584.jpg

[Bibbs]

When people ask me what kind of gas mileage do I get I say "its a truck so what do you exspect"? What can we do,we pull boats,trailers,dirt bikes,quads and snowmobiles to say the least.We all need a truck.I used to have an 03 avy then went to a 06 sierra but plan on going back to a 08 Avy.My dilemma is do I get the burnt orange to match the KTM or a blue one to kinda go with the pacific blue Tige or just say screw it and get a black one. Any thoughts?

[spenchey2]

wow nice ve, i'd have to say i'm a chevy guy though.

[ragboy]

That is one ugly broad driving that rig...:p :D :p :D

LOL. I don't care who you are, that's funny.

[Original Wing Nut]

Here are rigs 1 & 2. The Tahoe doesn't pull like the Duramax, but we took 9 to the Cold Water Reunion with the Tahoe. Both great rigs.

[Ks]

LOL. I don't care who you are, that's funny.

Hey,

That dude is a chick magnet! ( don't let my wife see this post) Bailey our golden lab has no issues getting attention:)

[Ks]

@ Original Wing Nut.

Do you have any more shots of your boat garage? I am in a dilemma right now, build a shop on our property or buy a small warehouse.

I am looking for idea's on shops, The issue is that I do not want a big box in my yard, I want it to tie into the house. ( like yours)

If anyone has pics of cool shops please post.

[Jason B]

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5476&highlight=warehouse

this is a post by Ragboy showing his warehouse.

[Tige'20i]

Here's What I got....

[anhaney]

I need to move back to Utah where I can get a add on like that to my house OWN. Post some more pics of that shop.:D

Here is my set up JK see the one below.

[Lucky 275]

Ballin

[wannabewakeboarder]

Ballin

Love the all white boat.

[Jason B]

Ballin???? If you ain't runnin' no John Deere you ain't "ballin!" :cool:


Does that thing seriously move the boat? That's a great idea.

[Original Wing Nut]

@ Original Wing Nut.

Do you have any more shots of your boat garage? I am in a dilemma right now, build a shop on our property or buy a small warehouse.

I am looking for idea's on shops, The issue is that I do not want a big box in my yard, I want it to tie into the house. ( like yours)

If anyone has pics of cool shops please post.

I will take some pics this week end. The garage is attached via a breezeway and roof. Our fine city will only allow a 1000 sf detacthed garage with a maximum hiegth of 15'. So I designed the garage to be connected with common roof and foundation which is the ordinance. It is my dog house, it is 24' wide x 44' deep in one bay and 32' deep in the other. I can park the rig and boat in the deep side and that is where it sits all summer, ready to go most times. In the winter the boat moves to the other side as it is more out of the way there, but requires tower to be folded down. I have the spce heated and spend time out in the dog house whenever I can. The biggest bonus is there is 9' tall storage shop under both garages. I built this home before concrete and steel went through the roof, but I would still pony up to do it again. I just remembered the architect has the plan on line. http://www.habitationshomeplans.com/plan_details.asp?planNumber=45
I spent 7 years designing this home and he is taking all the credit, but this is it. I got my man space and my wife got her kitchen and bath, here is the bath, she tried to outspend me in the garage, but I got to keep up. Good deal for me.

[samw]

Here is mine...

Sam

[wannabewakeboarder]

I will take some pics this week end. The garage is attached via a breezeway and roof. Our fine city will only allow a 1000 sf detacthed garage with a maximum hiegth of 15'. So I designed the garage to be connected with common roof and foundation which is the ordinance. It is my dog house, it is 24' wide x 44' deep in one bay and 32' deep in the other. I can park the rig and boat in the deep side and that is where it sits all summer, ready to go most times. In the winter the boat moves to the other side as it is more out of the way there, but requires tower to be folded down. I have the spce heated and spend time out in the dog house whenever I can. The biggest bonus is there is 9' tall storage shop under both garages. I built this home before concrete and steel went through the roof, but I would still pony up to do it again. I just remembered the architect has the plan on line. http://www.habitationshomeplans.com/plan_details.asp?planNumber=45
I spent 7 years designing this home and he is taking all the credit, but this is it. I got my man space and my wife got her kitchen and bath, here is the bath, she tried to outspend me in the garage, but I got to keep up. Good deal for me.


Those plans cost $1,000:ro:

[ddmracing05]

I wonder how you all keep up with payments on those New/Nice trucks and 07-08... is it just buy a decent house and dump money on a nice boat? Thats what I plan on :)

[spenchey2]

i plan on just living in my boat, even in storage.

[ragboy]

This is my everyday driver. The GMC/Chevy extra cab is like a honda accord up here in the mountains. 6 inch superlift and nitto terra grappler 33's. Will go to 35s when the 33s wear out.

http://homepage.mac.com/ragboy/TheRigs/pictures/picture-6.jpg

Hear it is, when I JUST got the lift, and just got the boat. The lift was not adjusted yet, so my truck looks dorky squatted down, doesn't do that anymore.

http://homepage.mac.com/ragboy/TheRigs/pictures/picture-2.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/ragboy/TheRigs/pictures/picture-3.jpg

Here is our Yukon XL K2500 with autoride and 8.1L vortec. This is a towing beast. Incredible power, torque, and traction.

http://homepage.mac.com/ragboy/TheRigs/pictures/picture-5.jpg

Here was my old rig, and our current travel trailer.

http://homepage.mac.com/ragboy/TheRigs/pictures/picture-1.jpg

[kana12]

this is what i use when we are going long distance or if im just heading up the road to our local lake 10 min away i use my 98 z71

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/kanafamily/Kali-9mo148.jpg

[b/w05]

02 Denali

[b/w05]

My Tige's new home. Sorry, a little off topic.

[Ks]

Not off topic @ all.

what is that 24X30?

[Matt Garcia]

http://paigegarcia.com/gallery/albums/oct06/143_4338.jpg

[Original Wing Nut]

Those plans cost $1,000:ro:

That's to buy plans already drawn. To start from scratch is worse, that's what I did and now he is trying to make more on them if someone else wants a copy. That is how architects make extra coin. Charge the guy through the nose to do an original design and then turn around and sell it to anyone else, of course I won't see any design fees or anything on any plans he sells off my design. That's life!
Back to rigs, sorry for heading:ot:

[anhaney]

I wonder how you all keep up with payments on those New/Nice trucks and 07-08... is it just buy a decent house and dump money on a nice boat? Thats what I plan on :)

It is called get an education. Learn several skills and be a very versitile marketable person. The number one thing I say is EDUCATION and invest in realestate ASAP.

So buy your first house and make the toys your second thing in life after you have built up a good foundation. I wanted a boat when I was in my early 20's and I saved for 10 years to buy the boat I wanted CASH this way I would not have a big toy payment. It is bad enough to just keep up with the maintenance.

[b/w05]

Kscales,

Yes it's 24x30. That's the biggist size I can have per our building codes thats not attached to the house. I still rent some warehouse space for my Falcon, Mustang and other toys. Plus when I need to do a project in the shop I'll take the boat there, I don't like to get dust & stuff on my baby. It's only a mile away. Of course the 24x30 is not big enough, but I would imagine if it was 60x60 it would still need to be bigger!

[Original Wing Nut]

It is called get an education. Learn several skills and be a very versitile marketable person. The number one thing I say is EDUCATION and invest in realestate ASAP.

So buy your first house and make the toys your second thing in life after you have built up a good foundation. I wanted a boat when I was in my early 20's and I saved for 10 years to buy the boat I wanted CASH this way I would not have a big toy payment. It is bad enough to just keep up with the maintenance.

I agree with Anhaney. EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION, and then earn interest with your money instead of paying it. My wisdom is borrow if your asset will appreciate in value, pay cash if it depreciates. It's worked for me.
This is a topic that everyone could go on and on about, but that's my:02:

Sorry again, I keep helping get :ot:

[evil0ne]

C2500 8.1L Suburban

[time2kyl]

Its amazing that your subdivision in no way looks like any other in the city... :D

[Jason B]

:ot:
Man, I'd kill for a yard of rocks like that. Yard work is the DEVIL!!!! Leaves me less time to play.

[dogbert]

Ballin

That's funnier than the pic of the dog in the driver's seat.

[dogbert]

http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/files/f_rig_desc--1071_564.jpg

[ragboy]

http://paigegarcia.com/gallery/albums/oct06/143_4338.jpg

OK Matt here is the thing....

Of course there is the great Ford/Chevy debate. And I am always willing to accept that another man has a different preference than I. And honestly, as far as looks go, that style F-150 is about the best looking ford I know. But Matt, your not just any guy. Your a Garcia, you must live to a higher standard, you must be true to the ways of the bean. There never was, nor never will be a FORD impala. I don't think "La Bamba" will ever be painted on a Ford. I have several uncles living on pensions from GM, I think they would send out the mexican mafia if I drove a ford.

I am here to help, brother. ;-)

[G-MONEY]

ha ha ha ha ha ha lol lol lol

[dogbert]

OK Matt here is the thing....

Of course there is the great Ford/Chevy debate. And I am always willing to accept that another man has a different preference than I. And honestly, as far as looks go, that style F-150 is about the best looking ford I know. But Matt, your not just any guy. Your a Garcia, you must live to a higher standard, you must be true to the ways of the bean. There never was, nor never will be a FORD impala. I don't think "La Bamba" will ever be painted on a Ford. I have several uncles living on pensions from GM, I think they would send out the mexican mafia if I drove a ford.

I am here to help, brother. ;-)

I think he's evolved to a higher bean :p

:D

[ragboy]

There is no higher bean. What would be a higher bean, a beet? Soy? Thats white boy food.

[anhaney]

LOLOLOLOLOLO HAHAHA Your Funny Ragboy. Matt moved up to the right boat at least. Give him time he will soon see the light. There is hope at the end of the tunnel the boat is prof.

[G-MONEY]

whatever Nissan guy.........:p

[G-MONEY]

There is no higher bean. What would be a higher bean, a beet? Soy? Thats white boy food.

jelly bean.........:ro:

[five o'clock]

Maybe its his wife's truck it just happened to be the one pulling the boat the day the pic was taken.

[da.bell]

I think he's evolved to a higher bean :p

:D

There is no higher bean. What would be a higher bean, a beet? Soy? Thats white boy food.

LOLOLOLOLOLO HAHAHA Your Funny Ragboy. Matt moved up to the right boat at least. Give him time he will soon see the light. There is hope at the end of the tunnel the boat is prof.

OK Matt here is the thing....

Of course there is the great Ford/Chevy debate. And I am always willing to accept that another man has a different preference than I. And honestly, as far as looks go, that style F-150 is about the best looking ford I know. But Matt, your not just any guy. Your a Garcia, you must live to a higher standard, you must be true to the ways of the bean. There never was, nor never will be a FORD impala. I don't think "La Bamba" will ever be painted on a Ford. I have several uncles living on pensions from GM, I think they would send out the mexican mafia if I drove a ford.

I am here to help, brother. ;-)

whatever Nissan guy.........:p

jelly bean.........:ro:

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif

lol

[G-MONEY]

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif

lol

da you lost???? you belong in the post whores thread:ro:

[Matt Garcia]

OK Matt here is the thing....

Of course there is the great Ford/Chevy debate. And I am always willing to accept that another man has a different preference than I. And honestly, as far as looks go, that style F-150 is about the best looking ford I know. But Matt, your not just any guy. Your a Garcia, you must live to a higher standard, you must be true to the ways of the bean. There never was, nor never will be a FORD impala. I don't think "La Bamba" will ever be painted on a Ford. I have several uncles living on pensions from GM, I think they would send out the mexican mafia if I drove a ford.

I am here to help, brother. ;-)

Hahahaha! Thats pretty funny ragboy! Well if I can redeem the Garcia last name my wife does drive a Tahoe. :D

I grew up on Chevys, thats all my dad ever had, still does to this day. I switched to Fords when I bought my first Diesel about 6 years ago and have just stuck to them since. I like the body style on the Texas Edition Silverado but I did not like the feel of the "cockpit". Ehh..maybe it was just the truck I was driving (rental).

BEANER POR VIDA! :ro:

[G-MONEY]

Dang you must have bin a bad boy if your wife is making you drive the ford.....:p

[ragboy]

BEANER POR VIDA! :ro:

Thats like Darth Vader saying "Long live the Jedi's!". You have gone over to the dark side my friend. However, your wife is welcome. Did you may a WETA (how do you spell that) like me? or is she a fine vata loca? ;-)

[Lucky 275]

Ballin???? If you ain't runnin' no John Deere you ain't "ballin!" :cool:


Does that thing seriously move the boat? That's a great idea.

That's the only way to get it in my garage, and the only reason I bought the "yard tractor" hence, no John Deere.

[zad0030]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z218/zad0030/Pictures0011.jpg

[G-MONEY]

:ro: :ro: :ro: :ro:

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/auto/car-smiley-030.gif

[anhaney]

whatever Nissan guy.........:p

Don't forget GM almost sold to Nissan. Then when the CEO from Nissan moved to GM that killed those talks. :D :D

[Carter13]

Here's my theory,

Drive whaterver works for you, brand doesn't mean SH$T.

I have an 07 Ford Powerstroke King Ranch 4x4 Short Box single rear wheel and it works best for my wife and I. We own an 05 Arctic Fox 860 camper and needed the 4100 payload that the Ford delivers because none of the other 1 ton SRW trucks comes close, and the Power Stroke delivers the torque that we need for the camper load and towing our 22V on long distance trips.

For me it's not about name brand or status symble it's about practicality.

This Tuesday I saw a guy towing a newer DD Correct Craft with an older Caddilac around a 1985 and thought hey if it works for him WTF...............

[zad0030]

I know someone who towed with a camarro.

[Lunchbox]

I have to agree with Carter... Drive with whatever works for you...

As a beaner myself (My last name is Garcia too) I feel like I'm driving the wrong truck... I have a Honda Pilot that does O.K... I'm planning on buying a Nissan Pathfinder with a V8 in the spring so I can take my boat on longer trips... I like the Nissan for the fit and finish... It reminds me of my Infiniti...

LBX

[Moki]

I have owned Fords and liked them, but I also like my Denali. I'm with Carter, I am going to drive what works for me. Maybe my next truck will be a Toyota?

Here's my current ride:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee56/Lakepal/IMG_1345.jpg?t=1194671717

[Carter13]

Hey Moki,

I worked for a street dept. locally for 7 years and have never seen red asphalt. I noticed in your pics that they have been crack sealed but am curious how much of Utah has red asphalt?

The sanding rock that Bend Oregon puts out during the winter is volcanic and red in color. BTW nice rig.

[wakeOC07]

heres mine this baby has everything, next year were upgrading to a chevy 2500 duramax! dont worry i have airbags now, that was the day we brought here home for the first time!!

[Original Wing Nut]

I have owned Fords and liked them, but I also like my Denali. I'm with Carter, I am going to drive what works for me. Maybe my next truck will be a Toyota?

Here's my current ride:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee56/Lakepal/IMG_1345.jpg?t=1194671717

Moki that pic is unfair, the back drop gives you the win. Maybe next years stereo contest should be in Zions, then you could win that also via home field, back drop advantage. By the way, that boat doesn't even look like yours. Great pic.

[ragboy]

I have to agree with Carter... Drive with whatever works for you...

As a beaner myself (My last name is Garcia too) I feel like I'm driving the wrong truck... I have a Honda Pilot that does O.K... I'm planning on buying a Nissan Pathfinder with a V8 in the spring so I can take my boat on longer trips... I like the Nissan for the fit and finish... It reminds me of my Infiniti...

LBX

I like nissan too. I had a 300zx I LOVED. I bought my daughter a 1997 nissan pathfinder for her first car. Nothing against toyotas, it just seems nissans are also very well built, but easier to find good deals.

I agree you should drive what you like, I don't like when people buy a car for status, but different strokes and all. I honestly have always loved chevy, and the motors, especially the small block 350. I have always test driven other brands like fords to make sure I wasn't being blind, but just didn't like them. Its a good thing also, because I wasn't kidding about the uncles on pension from GM. I would seriously have to explain myself. I grew up in the san fernando valley, and their used to be a HUGE GM plant in Van Nuys that employed a TON of latinos.

[dogbert]

Its a good thing also, because I wasn't kidding about the uncles on pension from GM. I would seriously have to explain myself. I grew up in the san fernando valley, and their used to be a HUGE GM plant in Van Nuys that employed a TON of latinos.

Don't worry, it'll be ok.

Speaking of trucks, anybody see one of those new Dodge trucks with the Benz Blutec Diesel engine? Talk about sweet. That thing is unbelievably quiet, clean and fuel efficient.

Check it out: http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/01daimler.php. I'd seriously consider getting one of those...even if it is a Dodge.

[Bibbs]

http://paigegarcia.com/gallery/albums/oct06/143_4338.jpg

Hey Matt I think you could solve my dilemma of what color of new Avy to buy.Your boat would match the burnt orange Avy and KTM.How about a straight across trade for a 2007 20v with 40 hours,pacific blue in color.I will even throw in free delivery and pick-up.Let me know.LOL

[spooner]

Don't worry, it'll be ok.

Speaking of trucks, anybody see one of those new Dodge trucks with the Benz Blutec Diesel engine? Talk about sweet. That thing is unbelievably quiet, clean and fuel efficient.

Check it out: http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/01daimler.php. I'd seriously consider getting one of those...even if it is a Dodge.

The new cummins does not get near the mileage of the old 5.9ls. In fact the new aftertreatment systems (bluetec) are hurting the mileage on everyones trucks.Not to mention the problems that are cropping up due to them. The ulsd even decreased the mileage of my 5.9 by about 5%

[Moki]

Hey Moki,

I worked for a street dept. locally for 7 years and have never seen red asphalt. I noticed in your pics that they have been crack sealed but am curious how much of Utah has red asphalt?

The sanding rock that Bend Oregon puts out during the winter is volcanic and red in color. BTW nice rig.

That road is actually inside of Zion Canyon National Park and there are a few other areas in Southern Utah where the asphalt is red due the red crushed rock.

[MRMoffat1]

Aug 2007, at mountain pass rest stop with friends, heading east for some hot sun and flat water.

[mneal]

Tow ratings are about to get standardized, long overdue IMHO. I have a Ford Explorer and it is rated for like 5000 lbs.. and I can tell towing my <4k boat no way it should rated to tow that amount. My new truck is rated for almost 10k and that also is BS. Watch all the ratings get reduced after this takes effect. http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/saetowing/page1.html

[chpthril]

Tow ratings are about to get standardized, long overdue IMHO. I have a Ford Explorer and it is rated for like 5000 lbs.. and I can tell towing my <4k boat no way it should rated to tow that amount. My new truck is rated for almost 10k and that also is BS. Watch all the ratings get reduced after this takes effect. http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/saetowing/page1.html

:ro: :ro: :ro: :ro: 'bout time

[Carter13]

That's great, I'm all for it.
I feel confident with my Ford 1 ton.

[Moki]

Don't worry, it'll be ok.

Speaking of trucks, anybody see one of those new Dodge trucks with the Benz Blutec Diesel engine? Talk about sweet. That thing is unbelievably quiet, clean and fuel efficient.

Check it out: http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/01daimler.php. I'd seriously consider getting one of those...even if it is a Dodge.

That just solved my reason for not getting a diesel...I could see myself driving one of those.

[AustinSouthSide]

Nice rides guys. I too am a GM guy, my first truck was an 1985 chevy pickup that I ran into the ground in high school and college, then I bought my dads 1985 chevy suburban and drove that for a few years. Then in 2001 I bought my first new vehicle, this Yukon. I love my Yukon, I have 77K on it now and plan on driving it till 100K. The new ones are sweet but they are REALLY proud of them! Who knows, maybe in a few years they will even have the Yukon Hybrid thing all worked out and I can save a few bucks on gas.

[scoot18]

GM for me as well, I like GMC's and the Bowties, here are our two tow rigs. I like the feel towing with the truck better it's more comfortable and It usually always stays hooked up to the Tige' ready to go at a moments notice. The Yukon doubles as a nice snack bar at boarding comps. Notice the tige' cooler bag on the ground!

[zad0030]

Scoot,
When I see that tan creamy color I cringe to think what it would look like on a boat, but your boat proves me wrong. You really pulled off that color combo!:ro: :ro: :ro:

BTW, nice Tige trailer hitch.;) :cool:

[anhaney]

GM for me as well, I like GMC's and the Bowties, here are our two tow rigs. I like the feel towing with the truck better it's more comfortable and It usually always stays hooked up to the Tige' ready to go at a moments notice. The Yukon doubles as a nice snack bar at boarding comps. Notice the tige' cooler bag on the ground!

Nice looking set up. I like the color combo of the truck with the boat.

[scoot18]

Scoot,
When I see that tan creamy color I cringe to think what it would look like on a boat, but your boat proves me wrong. You really pulled off that color combo!:ro: :ro: :ro:

BTW, nice Tige trailer hitch.;) :cool:

Nice looking set up. I like the color combo of the truck with the boat.


Thanks guys! :D

[chpthril]

Thanks guys! :D

Is that your new trailer? If not, have you gotten the new one yet and how is it working for you.

[scoot18]

Scoot,
When I see that tan creamy color I cringe to think what it would look like on a boat, but your boat proves me wrong. You really pulled off that color combo!:ro: :ro: :ro:

BTW, nice Tige trailer hitch.;) :cool:


Here is just a little more of the cream for you cringe on........ I know the feeling I had a hard time debating the color selection as well..........

Thanks again. Then again, I don't know that I have seen any bad looking tige's on here.

[scoot18]

Is that your new trailer? If not, have you gotten the new one yet and how is it working for you.

That is the original trailer in the pic. I got the new trailer this past Thursday. So far it's going ok. I have only unloaded and loaded once, and that part went fine so far (boat off, boat on). The new trailer is giving me a fit with dragging. I like to never got her backed into the driveway Thursday night. We went out Sunday and the forward most cross member caught the transition in the ramp, I have never had that happen before. I had to change my hitch from a 2.5" rise to a 2.25 drop just to be able to get into the driveway and I guess that has lowered the tongue enough that in certain situations its going to drag on some ramps.:( :(

Thanks for asking, "good memory."

[Matt Garcia]

Hey Matt I think you could solve my dilemma of what color of new Avy to buy.Your boat would match the burnt orange Avy and KTM.How about a straight across trade for a 2007 20v with 40 hours,pacific blue in color.I will even throw in free delivery and pick-up.Let me know.LOL

Hmmm man I dont know...maybe if you had navy blue instead of pacific I may have considered. :p

[Bibbs]

Hmmm man I dont know...maybe if you had navy blue instead of pacific I may have considered. :p

I can paint it navy blue ---in my garage if that would help.LOL

[Bibbs]

Here is just a little more of the cream for you cringe on........ I know the feeling I had a hard time debating the color selection as well..........

Thanks again. Then again, I don't know that I have seen any bad looking tige's on here.

Nice color combos. The dog matches the cream color on the boat-nice touch.

[Original Wing Nut]

@ Original Wing Nut.

Do you have any more shots of your boat garage? I am in a dilemma right now, build a shop on our property or buy a small warehouse.

I am looking for idea's on shops, The issue is that I do not want a big box in my yard, I want it to tie into the house. ( like yours)

If anyone has pics of cool shops please post.

Ok here are some pics of my dog house/toy box :)

[Original Wing Nut]

Here is the shop below the garage.:)

[Bibbs]

Nice,I thought our triple car garage was adequate as we keep the boat at the cabin.My wife said we could almost use a bigger garage-wait till I show her yours.More garage space=more toys.LOL

[anhaney]

You have succeeded in making me jealous. I hope some day I can get out of CA. I should sale here and move it to Utah or Arizona. The only problem is with my wife in pain from her arthritis at the age of 36 I do not think cold climates will be good for her.

Very nice set up OWN looks great.

[Jason B]

I have garage envy.

[chpthril]

Sweet setup OWN :ro:

[Moki]

Nice setup OWN! I am going to add another garage, our current garage is 40 X 24, so the boat does not fit. Right now it's packed away in a warehouse.

What benefit did you get by tying your detached garage into your house? I need to look into our covenants to see if I need to do that to put it where I want it and also to still keep my shed.

[chpthril]

Nice setup OWN! I am going to add another garage, our current garage is 40 X 24, so the boat does not fit. Right now it's packed away in a warehouse.

What benefit did you get by tying your detached garage into your house? I need to look into our covenants to see if I need to do that to put it where I want it and also to still keep my shed.

From an insurance standpoint, if it's tied to the house, it becomes part of the "House" and not an "Other Structure" . Most home policies do not have enough coverage to replace a garage with out adding it on as an endorsement, which may cost more in premium then just increasing the size/replacement cost of the house.

[Original Wing Nut]

Nice setup OWN! I am going to add another garage, our current garage is 40 X 24, so the boat does not fit. Right now it's packed away in a warehouse.

What benefit did you get by tying your detached garage into your house? I need to look into our covenants to see if I need to do that to put it where I want it and also to still keep my shed.

I needed the roof and foundation attached to the house to get the size I wanted. Detached buildings have a maximum size of 1000 sf and a 15' height restriction. Also if it was detached it would have needed to be behind the back of the house. I then would have no shop underneath and to the size I wanted. I also have a walkway under the drive to storage under the other garage. None of this would work without it being attached. The tricky part was finding a lot it would fit on. I originally designed the home for another lot the 2nd garage was full depth on both sides for that lot, but my current lot is angled and I lost the back corner in the back. Here are a a couple shots from the back. It doesn't look like it in the photos, but I can get a small vehicle, into the shop. You can not tell for the pics, but I am on a completely flat lot with a very high water table. We had to get real creative with the landscaping to hide all my man space.

Moki, I love playing with designs and stuff like that. If you would like some help give me a call. I gues in reality it's what I do for a living.

[Jason B]

Wow, nice looking pad! Between maintaning the pool, boat, and house, and also working, you're lucky to have any time to use your boat Is there any such thing as too many toys?? :p

[Super B]

Here is my tow rig. '06 Duramax LBZ.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee314/Doesche/125-2505_IMG.jpg

[Moki]

OWN,
Nice house! I really like what you did. I am amazed that it is on a flat lot. Your house is definitely designed by somebody that has done this a few times as it is so well thought out. Our covenants say that the detached garage can't be larger than your house, but I also want my garage right off the drive way and not in the back. So, I think that I will have to figure a way out to hook it into the house.

Chpthrl,
Thanks for the insurance tip!

[zad0030]

Do we need a Tige's Home thread?

[wetsounds1]

My daily driver.

[ragboy]

I like the rims, what make/style etc?

[wetsounds1]

Thanks! MKW Wheels 22x11 http://www.bazowheels.com/wheels/mkwoffroad/

Model M26

[anhaney]

Wetsounds1 I am sure you have all your profit from your speakers tied up in that thing. It is a very nice looking truck take care of it.

[anhaney]

My daily driver.

:ot: I am very curious to see how well these big wraps that guys are having done to their boat hold up to wake surfing over time.

They look real good but being they are stickers they may have some issues over time or what if they get a nick in them? Then what? You can't just repair it all that easy. :ot:

[Moki]

Ka Bling!!!
Nice looking truck.
With all of my Wet Sounds speakers, I think I might have paid for those wheels.....;) :D

[larryueckert]

here is the hummer h2 my new toy the charger and had to show off the tige sticker and i guess my daughter on the front of the hummer i'm going to have a talk with her.

[wetsounds1]

I will let you know how the wrap holds up. We surf more than anything so we will see. It has held up great so far with only the cover cinching down on the corners. Didn't think about it till it was too late and left some marks. So we put some felt on the inside of the cover corners. But the wrap is pretty tough. I am paranoid about it so when we tie up, I have 6 bumpers down each side. All I need is some old tires and I would be set like an old fishing boat!

Luckily, I have freinds in high places at a lot of companies so to build it wasn't too bad. Or the real boss, my wife would have not let me build it. Of course, it is for the company! To pull the boat. She knows me too well so she doesn't buy that stuff anymore.

[Ruune]

ok.. I'll bite. I'm resisting the urge to drop some 20's on it now.
In the 1st picture, I'm standing on the walkway to my dock... this is the front yard.
http://a452.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_2e8f5a7fe637586252f15380a534445b.jpg

http://a106.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_2f8544ed4bda3214fa37c48a306db659.jpg

[flackpack]

We have towed the boat across the country coast to coast and back to the middle. The Expedition tows better than we expected.

[Tige'20i]

Here's What I got....

What, I'm the only Dodge on here? :D

[stanger]

Here you go tige'20i this is my new 2008 2500 4x4 hemi just a week old

[Lunchbox]

My 06 Honda Pilot... Not great but hopefully in Spring I'll have something with a little more pull...

LBX

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7680&stc=1&d=1195833043

[Ruune]

yikes... whats the tow rating on that thing? I hope that you can stop a rig that heavy with a pilot.

[anhaney]

My 06 Honda Pilot... Not great but hopefully in Spring I'll have something with a little more pull...

LBX

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7680&stc=1&d=1195833043

Wow that is very scary. I would find some friends that have a truck and like to go skiing. You provide the boat they provide the truck until you get one. I would hate to see or here you had major wreck. That boat is heavier than the tow vehicle and that is not save at all. Just be careful please. :eek: :eek:

[do420jc]

New Toyota Tunra. Tows like a dream.

[hoopykat]

/me gives do420jc his *d* key back ;)

Just kidding....nice ride!

-Mike

[do420jc]

woops tunDra.

[Tige'20i]

Here you go tige'20i this is my new 2008 2500 4x4 hemi just a week old

Thanks Stanger, I was starting to think you couldn't own a Tige and a Dodge:D

[Lunchbox]

Wow that is very scary. I would find some friends that have a truck and like to go skiing. You provide the boat they provide the truck until you get one. I would hate to see or here you had major wreck. That boat is heavier than the tow vehicle and that is not save at all. Just be careful please. :eek: :eek:

It's not that bad... the truck is rated at about 5500 lbs. and my boat is about 5700... The brakes on the trailer are great and the truck doesn't have any problems stopping... Like I said I'm planning on picking up a new vehicle in the spring so I can make longer trips...

[airnudie]

LBX, you might be a tad off on the tow rating.

http://automobiles.honda.com/pilot/specifications.aspx?group=dimensions

[Ruune]

hmmm 3475lb dry weight + 1600lb (min) weight of the trailer + 195lbs (5.6lbs/gallon) of fuel = 5273 lbs.

I seriously hope that your honda is 4wd with the 4500lb capacity... 2wd has 3500lb.

Either way, you're well over the rating of your vehicle. its not normal stopping, its emergency/rapid stopping. This is an accident just waiting to happen.

[chpthril]

hmmm 3475lb dry weight + 1600lb (min) weight of the trailer + 195lbs (5.6lbs/gallon) of fuel = 5273 lbs.

I seriously hope that your honda is 4wd with the 4500lb capacity... 2wd has 3500lb.

Either way, you're well over the rating of your vehicle. its not normal stopping, its emergency/rapid stopping. This is an accident just waiting to happen.

I think It's saying the 2wd and 4wd or 3500 for "other" trailers and 4500 for boat trailers.

LBX need a new truck dude, way over the limit.

[anhaney]

New Toyota Tunra. Tows like a dream.

Nice Ride. Lunchbox needs this also. :D

[mneal]

A buddy of mine is DOT guy and he would park you on side of the road. Other bigger thing is if you get in an accident (even not your fault) you are gonna be uninsuranced as soon as the insurance company finds out the boat was over the legal limit. I know trucks are not cheap (recently bought a Titan) but come on man, you have a $50k boat, buy a full size beater truck in the meantime, it is not safe. My 2 cents anyhow.

[tigeblue]

I never got in on this thread. So here it goes

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7615/dscn1363vd5.jpg

[tigeblue]

Ill post up pics of my new RZ2 once I pick it up.

[spooner]

I missed the last few posts on this thread awhile ago and have to stoke the Pilot vs truck fire a little. I towed for 2 years with a pilot then bought a 04 f150 pilot towed better and got better fuel mileage. Honda over engineers everything kinda like tige:) . That pilot will tow way better and safer than a "old beater" with drum brakes ,no active traction controll, no air bags etc.
As for ins companys denieing the claim hell its a insurance co. they can allways find a reason can't they?:02:

[raythompson]

A buddy of mine is DOT guy and he would park you on side of the road. Other bigger thing is if you get in an accident (even not your fault) you are gonna be uninsuranced as soon as the insurance company finds out the boat was over the legal limit. I know trucks are not cheap (recently bought a Titan) but come on man, you have a $50k boat, buy a full size beater truck in the meantime, it is not safe. My 2 cents anyhow.Towing limits on vehicles are not legal limits. They are only the recommendations from the manufacturer and exceeding such limits may void warranties and damage the vehicle. Would an insurance company deny you a claim because your tires were over the recommended inflation level? (Well, if they could they would certainly try, bastards.) I have seen some really scary towing situations that the police basically ignored. I don't know how the police would feel if the vehicle was involved in an accident.

Anyway, I think the most important consideration is to get a vehicle with a frame. I don't know if the Pilot has a frame. The body does not become involved in the towing load and instead the stress is placed on the frame mounted components, engine, transmission, axle, and hitch.

I could make the argument that my F-150 is not much heavier than my boat if at all. However the tow rating does exceed my boat weight. This is due to the towing package with heavier components, additional cooling, additional braking, higher ratio rear end, larger truck tires, and frame mounted hitch components.

[Ruune]

I missed the last few posts on this thread awhile ago and have to stoke the Pilot vs truck fire a little. I towed for 2 years with a pilot then bought a 04 f150 pilot towed better and got better fuel mileage. Honda over engineers everything kinda like tige:) . That pilot will tow way better and safer than a "old beater" with drum brakes ,no active traction controll, no air bags etc.
As for ins companys denieing the claim hell its a insurance co. they can allways find a reason can't they?:02:


I'm going to have to pull the BS card on this. Its simple physics: the honda pilot is not long enough, nor is it heavy enough to control the load of a boat like that. Its not about pulling power- its about stopping power. Also, an older "beater" truck is going to have a better braking (i.e. TOWING) capacity than a smaller vehicle. Period. Tow rating has as much to do with the ability of a vehicle to control the inertial force of the trailer during emergency deceleration.

In other words, try hooking up a heavy boat like this to a pilot, accelerate to highway speed, then slam on the brakes and swerve as if you're avoiding an obsticle.

My money is on the following result: Since the short (and narrow) wheelbase dont provide enough leverage, coupled with the fact that the boat & trailer far outweighs the tow vehicle, the trailer will keep going in a straight line. Since the tow vehicle is unable to control the inertia, it simply gets dragged along for the ride. This is called jack knifing. Newton's first law of physics (aka "the law of inertia") states that an object in motion tends to remain at motion. Again, simple physics.

Now imagine that there's a minivan full of kids that you were trying to swerve around. You just killed the three that were in the back seat.

Bottom line: You need to pull a full-sized boat with a full-sized truck.

[Ruune]

In regards to the features that a pilot has that you claim is justification for ignoring the tow rating specified by the manufacturer's engineers:

Drum vs. Disc Brakes: For what its worth, my brand new 2007 GMC Sierra has drum brakes on the rear, with discs up front. So did my 1993 Dodge. Still think your pilot can stop a trailer better? Think again.

Traction control- Although this may help, your not going to get better traction than you would by simply having more weight over the wheels.

Air bags- What the heck does this have to do with a vehicle's ability to tow and STOP a rig? Brilliant.

Furthermore, as Raythompson indicated, proper towing packages include aux trans coolers, lower gear ratios, frame mounted hitches, etc. The pilot doesnt even have a frame- it has a unibody.

Before you go off and say "Well you really should try driving one." I have. In fact, one of my closest friends has owned one since 2003. I agree that they're built well, but it is by no means a tow vehicle.

[Matt Garcia]

Ray, can you check your Tigeowners.com account e-mail again please? I still have your old email address on file.

Sorry for the hijack.

Thanks
Matt

[Ruune]

its ok- your penance can be to unlock the "accessory" thread. :ro: :D :ot: :D :ro:
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[spooner]

Wow, I did not know I would need a fire suit.
First, I no longer own a pilot.

When I bought my boat All I had was a pilot and a accord so the pilot got to tow IMO not Ideal but I thought it did a good job. I then traded my accord for a 04 F-150 which seemed to tow just as well if not worse and the mileage got a lot worse.My comparson is based on towing the same boat to the same places with these two different vehicles.

Ruune, I did not mean to upset you.

My comments about ACTIVE traction controll, and airbags go to the overall saftey of the vehicle. I disagree that drum brakes stop better than disc when towing disc brakes are much more effective and rarely over heat they also allow 4 channel abs where drum do not .

So are you really saying that it is safer to have a 1990 pick up than that pilot? I tried that too. My f-150 was leased and went back last year, thinking I would save some green to perhaps get a new boat I bought a 90 F-250 with a 5.8 to do the job fact is it wouldn't it took longer to stop and way longer to accellerate. I used the pilot instead it worked much better. I should add I live in a sparcely populated area and rarely drive in traffic. Most towing is done on two lane roads @65mph.

I reread you posts Ruune and I guess I really got you pissed off That was not my intention at all. We will just have to agree to disgree that a 4 wheel disc, 4channel active traction controll will stop better than a 93 ram with drums and rear abs at best.

[Jason B]

its ok- your penance can be to unlock the "accessory" thread. :ro: :D :ot: :D :ro:
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SOLID!!!!!!!!!:D :ro: :D :ro: :D :ro: :D

[Ruune]

Wow, I did not know I would need a fire suit.
First, I no longer own a pilot.

When I bought my boat All I had was a pilot and a accord so the pilot got to tow IMO not Ideal but I thought it did a good job. I then traded my accord for a 04 F-150 which seemed to tow just as well if not worse and the mileage got a lot worse.My comparson is based on towing the same boat to the same places with these two different vehicles.

Ruune, I did not mean to upset you.

My comments about ACTIVE traction controll, and airbags go to the overall saftey of the vehicle. I disagree that drum brakes stop better than disc when towing disc brakes are much more effective and rarely over heat they also allow 4 channel abs where drum do not .

So are you really saying that it is safer to have a 1990 pick up than that pilot? I tried that too. My f-150 was leased and went back last year, thinking I would save some green to perhaps get a new boat I bought a 90 F-250 with a 5.8 to do the job fact is it wouldn't it took longer to stop and way longer to accellerate. I used the pilot instead it worked much better. I should add I live in a sparcely populated area and rarely drive in traffic. Most towing is done on two lane roads @65mph.

I reread you posts Ruune and I guess I really got you pissed off That was not my intention at all. We will just have to agree to disgree that a 4 wheel disc, 4channel active traction controll will stop better than a 93 ram with drums and rear abs at best.

Sorry if I came off like I was pissed off- that was not my intent. I've seen some seriously bad accidents (ex. overloaded trailer and rig crashing into a minivan full of kids) due to this sort of thing. Another example happend when riding my motorcycle from a trip in SW Texas, going down I-10, heading into San Antonio. The driver of a Ford Dually was pulling a triple axle cattle trailer, and the trailer apparently didnt have working brakes. Although no people got hurt, the trailer jacknifed and well, lets just say there was a lot of tenderized steak on the road. :(

[Ruune]

SOLID!!!!!!!!!:D :ro: :D :ro: :D :ro: :D

Bibbs promises to behave. :p
:ro: :D :ro: :D :ro: :D

[Matt Garcia]

its ok- your penance can be to unlock the "accessory" thread. :ro: :D :ot: :D :ro:
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Ha haha...you dudes are a riot. Hey by the way I was up in your area (Helotes) during Thanksgiving. We ate El Chappral, damn that was some good mexican food!!

[Ruune]

wow... I used to work there when I was in college (UTSA). My parents live on one of the hills across from there. I hope you didnt have to drive very far afterwards! I always overdo it there and end up paying for it about 15mins later... NOT good on a motorcycle trip!

[Razzman]

:ot: Ahhh ... nothing better than good mex food! Never ate it either on bike road trips, especially in the middle of nowhere!

:ot: Speaking of which, i just sold my '06 Harley FLHX monday night to a lady outta Folsom, CA for $18,000 all within 24 hours of posting on Craigslist! And everybody said i couldn't sell for what i wanted! BAH! One more to go now ... :D

On topic: I towed mine for a couple months with the wife's '03 Durango/4.7L V8 and it was squirrly being short wheelbase, not to mention it strained it a bit. I can tow so much better with the '07 GMC Sierra Clubcab 4x4 5.3L and personally i can't see towing with anything more other than to have bragging rights which i'm not into.

[mtnsmith]

Anyone with a Titan out there?? I think I saw anhaney with one...Anyhow, I will hopefully be bringing one home this weekend if it gets here, I'll take some pics as soon as I can. My dealer couldn't find me one anywhere in the southeast as there are not very many 4x4's in Florida so I ended up getting one straight from the factory. Then the wonderful weather last week up north delayed it getting on a truck so they sent it by train to Orlando, hopefully it will be here this week since it was actually supposed to be here last week. Well, enough ranting about my yet to be delivered truck.

[raythompson]

Ray, can you check your Tigeowners.com account e-mail again please?Done.:ro:

[Ruune]

Anyone with a Titan out there?? I think I saw anhaney with one...Anyhow, I will hopefully be bringing one home this weekend if it gets here, I'll take some pics as soon as I can. My dealer couldn't find me one anywhere in the southeast as there are not very many 4x4's in Florida so I ended up getting one straight from the factory. Then the wonderful weather last week up north delayed it getting on a truck so they sent it by train to Orlando, hopefully it will be here this week since it was actually supposed to be here last week. Well, enough ranting about my yet to be delivered truck.

A friend of mine has a 22v, 22vé, and a RZ2 that he uses a Titan to tow with- he really likes it.

[time2kyl]

A friend of mine has a 22v, 22vé, and a RZ2 that he uses a Titan to tow with- he really likes it.

Your friend has too many boats...perhaps I could take one off his hands for him. :D I mean come on, my Sierra would feel left out if it knew that another truck got to pull 3 boats.

[maximus2003]

Any of you guys tow with an Expedition? Just curious because the lease on my F150 is up in a few months and we're thinking about getting the Expedition this time instead. I'm curious to hear if there is a big difference in towing because of the wheelbase length.

[yearroundboarder]

I've towed our 22Ve' with our Sequoia and Titan. Wife's Sequoia does marginal; back end a little too soft. Titan tows it no problem but I need to upgrade from the stock tires. The Goodyear's they put on at the factory are crap. Considering how much I trailer, I will probably go with Michelin MTX or BFG AT; both have a stronger sidewall and would be better suited to tow. Since this pic, I added a Leer toneau cover. This truck is a third car for us, so it really only sees Home Depot and the Lake :)

[Ruune]

Your friend has too many boats...perhaps I could take one off his hands for him. :D I mean come on, my Sierra would feel left out if it knew that another truck got to pull 3 boats.


www.under360.com
They were used for "Our First Set." and "Its Whatever." I believe the latter two boats are sponsor boats.

[anhaney]

I've towed our 22Ve' with our Sequoia and Titan. Wife's Sequoia does marginal; back end a little too soft. Titan tows it no problem but I need to upgrade from the stock tires. The Goodyear's they put on at the factory are crap. Considering how much I trailer, I will probably go with Michelin MTX or BFG AT; both have a stronger sidewall and would be better suited to tow. Since this pic, I added a Leer toneau cover. This truck is a third car for us, so it really only sees Home Depot and the Lake :)

Looks familar the truck is a third car for us also Home Depot, and the lake as well. It pulls the 24V no problems.:D

[airnudie]

Any of you guys tow with an Expedition? Just curious because the lease on my F150 is up in a few months and we're thinking about getting the Expedition this time instead. I'm curious to hear if there is a big difference in towing because of the wheelbase length.
We have an Expediton that gets tow duty most of the time. The shorter wheel base is noticible on the freeway for sure. I you like to tow at 70mph+, I would consider the longer (EL?) version. The load leveling suspension is quite nice also. It will have to do until the new Sequoia comes out. I wonder if they will make a longer version ??????

[Ruune]

I've towed our 22Ve' with our Sequoia and Titan. Wife's Sequoia does marginal; back end a little too soft.

Dont let her know you think so!:eek: :p :p :eek:

[illiniboarder88]

I towed my 20i through the mountains of VA with an Explorer. There were some times I wasn't sure she was going to make it all the way up the inclines. I was glad I wasn't pulling anymore boat than I was.

[Razzman]

Looks familar the truck is a third car for us also Home Depot, and the lake as well. It pulls the 24V no problems.:D

bought this one in February i think and it just turned over 4,000 on the odo! At this rate i won't see 50K for over ten years! :eek:

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2434&stc=1&d=1169061430

[Ruune]

Nice truck! I really dig both the "classic" and new body styles! I bought my '07 on 7/31 and just turned 9500. Glad they have 100,000 mile warranties now! One other thing I find interesting- it monitors its own oil life, and I just had the first oil change at 9500 miles.. this is per the computer's recommendation. Talk about oil life! I usually change mine every 3-5k.

[Razzman]

I like both styles too. The wife prefers the classic, the nice thing was i got a killer deal on this as the new style just came out so i stole the thing at $28K out the door! Unheard of then for a 4x4! Yeah i'm waiting for the computer to let me know but with as little as gets driven it may be awhile!

[time2kyl]

I bought the new 07 style Sierra in August. I love it, when I saw the new body style come out I was sold. I'm at 6k miles and the computer says I have 30% left on my oil life. The side problem is now I am addicted to XM.

[yearroundboarder]

"Dont let her know you think so!"

Now that's funny.

[Carter13]

What you guys need to think about is what kind of driving you are doing?
If it's during the spring and summer months while towing your 5500 lb. boats then you should be changing the oil much sooner than what your computer is telling you. The computer is not calculating what kind of conditions you are towing or driving under.

Hell your V8 gassers are cheap to have the oil changed, what $40 to $50, I'm paying $95 bones and I have no problem with that cause I plan on keeping this truck for 10 years.

I have an 07 Ford Powerstroke 350 and I change the oil every 3000 miles because I am towing our camper and or our boat and that takes a toll on the oil.

Also keep in mind your tranny fluid, if you are doing a lot of towing it is cheap insurance to flush and refill with new annually.

[Ruune]

The computer is not calculating what kind of conditions you are towing or driving under.


Actually- According to the manual, it is!

[Razzman]

Yeah mine says the same thing. Says it takes into account weights, speeds, rpms and all kinds of other stuff. Technology, gotta love it.

[shake-n-bake]

I am using the same oil in my duramax that I use to run in my peterbilt and i would get 15k to 17k out of it before a change so I think the oil will hold up for 7500 in a duramax

[Carter13]

Computer, I don't trust no stinkin computer :D .
I would like to know how the computer is calculating the degree that the oil is becoming dirty and breaking down.
I work for a large city here in the northwest and the shops changes out the oil on all trucks every 3000 miles reguardless of what the computer says.
I just figure it's cheap insurance, heck I wish I had a 1/2 ton gasser like you guys when I have to pay the bill for an oil change.
Curious what your take is on how often to change the tranny fluid?

[Ruune]

Well, I figure that the engineers that designed the engine and the system know a thing or two about oil life... plus the computer isnt running a Microsoft OS, so it cant be too inaccurate!

[dogbert]

One other thing I find interesting- it monitors its own oil life, and I just had the first oil change at 9500 miles.. this is per the computer's recommendation. Talk about oil life! I usually change mine every 3-5k.

That's pretty cool. That's a tankful of gas on your Tige you saved in oil changes:ro:

[coach07]

Does anyone tow with a Toyota 4Runner?

I have a 2006 4Runner Sport with a v8 and hope to be successfully towing a 20v with it. It's rated tow capacity is 7000lbs.

Anyone see any issues with this combo?

[xpjim1]

Actually- According to the manual, it is!

Things have changed since 2003. Mine tells me when to change the oil but the manual has all kinds of outs. like if you tow you should change it more often, etc. I do mine once a year, every 4000 miles

[mtnsmith]

Does anyone tow with a Toyota 4Runner?

I have a 2006 4Runner Sport with a v8 and hope to be successfully towing a 20v with it. It's rated tow capacity is 7000lbs.

Anyone see any issues with this combo?

For a 20v, I bet you would be fine. I looked into the same thing not too long ago and found that www.rv.net had some pretty good towing stories/suggestions for the 4runner. I guess the biggest thing most people do to help them tow something with a lot of tongue weight is add airbags to the rear suspension. All 4runners have always been kind of wimpy when it comes to the rear suspension to soften the ride, which is what is nice about airbags, they only come into effect when loaded. Good luck!:ro:

[chpthril]

The computer is not calculating what kind of conditions you are towing or driving under.

.

On a GM it actually does. The PCM monitors hot and cold starts, trip time/mileage, and driving conditions via the TPS, Trottle Position Sensor and MAP, Manifold Absolute Sensor, which will indicate engine load due to towing.

[chpthril]

Nice truck! I really dig both the "classic" and new body styles! I bought my '07 on 7/31 and just turned 9500. Glad they have 100,000 mile warranties now! One other thing I find interesting- it monitors its own oil life, and I just had the first oil change at 9500 miles.. this is per the computer's recommendation. Talk about oil life! I usually change mine every 3-5k.

Regardless of my last post, I change mine every 3k. My oil life is usually around 75% remaining when I do it.

In all my years, I have NEVER replaced an engine because the oil was changed TOO often :ro:

[mtnsmith]

It was an early Christmas for me!!! Just picked up my 2008.5 Titan on Wed. Crazy Nissan with their half model year vehicles. Yes I already towed with it since my dealer said I could and boy does it tow nice. :D I hope everyone else has a great Christmas as well!!!

[chpthril]

It was an early Christmas for me!!! Just picked up my 2008.5 Titan on Wed. Crazy Nissan with their half model year vehicles. Yes I already towed with it since my dealer said I could and boy does it tow nice. :D I hope everyone else has a great Christmas as well!!!

Well, Merry Christmas to you :p ;)


J/k Congrats

[anhaney]

It was an early Christmas for me!!! Just picked up my 2008.5 Titan on Wed. Crazy Nissan with their half model year vehicles. Yes I already towed with it since my dealer said I could and boy does it tow nice. :D I hope everyone else has a great Christmas as well!!!


Yes, they do tow nice. I pull my 24V no problems with mine. Make sure you do all the maintenance as lined out in the book. Since you are towing with it be sure you change the rear differential oil after 500 miles and make sure to keep receipt and good documentation of all maintenance and oil changes.

I had an engine issue with mine and a rear diff issue right around 12,000 miles and Nissan tried to get out of the warranty until I pulled out all my records and paper work. They did not argue with me then except the fact that I did the work myself Oil changes, Rear Diff, Oil, Ect, Ect.

They said I should of had it done at the dealer. Then we had to bring up that Federal Bill SB1147 that allows you to do your own maintenance or take it to other places to have it done. One thing I did also because they can void the warranty if you don't is I purchased the oil filters from the dealer. That was anther item that saved me. Now I have no problems with the truck and I love my TITAN. It is a lot of truck for a decent price.

Merry Christmas.:D

[anhaney]

It was an early Christmas for me!!! Just picked up my 2008.5 Titan on Wed. Crazy Nissan with their half model year vehicles. Yes I already towed with it since my dealer said I could and boy does it tow nice. :D I hope everyone else has a great Christmas as well!!!

MTN Smith is that a BMW in front of the TITAN?

[mtnsmith]

MTN Smith is that a BMW in front of the TITAN?

It's an Acura TL Type S, it did however replace my wife's beloved 1998 BMW M3 Sedan, it was totaled last april and we could not find another one like it. Thanks for all the helpful hints on the Titan. Hopefully they have solved all the differential/axle and brake problems by now. I guess we'll see:D

[anhaney]

It's an Acura TL Type S, it did however replace my wife's beloved 1998 BMW M3 Sedan, it was totaled last april and we could not find another one like it. Thanks for all the helpful hints on the Titan. Hopefully they have solved all the differential/axle and brake problems by now. I guess we'll see:D

I never have had a problem yet with the brakes and they have pulled some big hills and back down. Once they fixed the other issues the truck has been great, it pulls hard, I get 16mpg's while pulling and it has over all been very reliable.

[Matt Garcia]

ragboy, this ones for you!

The Garcia's are no longer in Fords anymore.

[ragboy]

ragboy, this ones for you!

The Garcia's are no longer in Fords anymore.

Thats beautiful. (with a tear in my eye) Welcome back Matt. sniff.

[Ruune]

awesome Matt! I've got the same color in a Sierra SLT. You're going to love that truck! Now, get that sexy beast Line-X'd! Once you get about 6k on the driveline, you can get 19-20mpg hwy (keeping it between 65 and 70) w/ the 5.3L. Actually, you may even get a little bit more... looks like yours is a 2wd. :)

[Ruune]

oh... and I need a tigeowners.com sticker too! :p

[tessa]

Thats beautiful. (with a tear in my eye) Welcome back Matt. sniff.

Nice Cheby,,oops Chevy:eek:

Real nice looking ride.

[ragboy]

I gotta tell you how lucky I am. My wife, doesn't want a jaguar, or lexus, she wants me to buy here a brand new Silverado. What a woman. Only problem is, you can't fix six kids in it. She has a Yukon XL now. I will have to figure something out.

[Timmy!]

Nice truck Matt! Looks like you got the cargo management system too. I think I would like to get that for my Silverado HD at some point as I REALLY miss the compartments on my Avalanche. Congrats!

[Matt Garcia]

Thanks guys, I finally hooked the boat up to it this past weekend. It tows a lot smoother than my previous F-150.

I will definitely get it lined but will LineX scratch up my sensitive cargo like my wakeboards? My previous trucks just had the plastic lined beds.

[Ruune]

nope... its a rubber compound.

[mtnsmith]

I gotta tell you how lucky I am. My wife, doesn't want a jaguar, or lexus, she wants me to buy here a brand new Silverado. What a woman. Only problem is, you can't fix six kids in it. She has a Yukon XL now. I will have to figure something out.

I realize this is an '06, but I'm sure they could hook up a new Silverado. You could probably buy two yukon xl's for what it costs you though.

http://www.truckinweb.com/features/0707tr_2006_chevrolet_silverado/photo_01.html

[ragboy]

That is VERY cool. Those are the same tires I have on my truck. Those nittos are both the sexiest and best performing tires out there. I have snow and mud tested them thoroughly.

[Timmy!]

The Toyo Open Country A/T's are the parent tire to the Nitto's, they are quieter and last longer - I got 50k miles out of my Toyo's.

[Razzman]

HAH! Got ya all beat, i've still got nubs after 10 months on the Goodyear A/T's that are on my '07 GMC Classic. :ro: ... But then i again i only have 4,200 miles on it too! :D

[ragboy]

Y, I am aware, and have seen them. But nothing IMHO has that nasty look the NITTOS have. And I have been unbelievably amazed at their traction and performance. They wear pretty quick though.

[Timmy!]

The Toyo definitely has the same traction.

[G-MONEY]

I know its a MC but this it one sweet rig..........

[Domsz06]

good ole vinyal gotta love it!

[tessa]

I have Goodyear Futura Tires which have a 50K+ thread life and I use them on an 02 Grand Cherokee and have over 60k on them and they still have 1/3 of their tread life. Good in mud,snow,rain, and slimey green moss on ramps. Also handle steep wahed out grades in 4x4 low. I'd get them again for the Jeep. The onlt thing the are not freat on is ice.

[dogbert]

good ole vinyal gotta love it!

Only in Texas:

[G-MONEY]

No we have a few in Cali with a monster lift on it and louis vuitton interior

[G-MONEY]

I found a pic of one of them

[Jason B]

My father told me " a fool and his money are soon parted."
I can't think of a better illustration to prove he was 100% corect!!!!!

[dogbert]

I found a pic of one of them

Ok, I take it back...only in the land of fruits and nuts :rolleyes:

[Lunchbox]

Only in Texas:

I found a pic of one of them

I was at the 'bu dealer here in PHX a few months back and they had a Pink and Black Barbie boat... I wish I could have gotten a picture... I would have loved to see one of these rigs towing that barbie 'bu... :rolleyes:

[dogbert]

LOL, maybe we could have gotten batman to drive it :eek:

[Domsz06]

Ok, I take it back...only in the land of fruits and nuts :rolleyes:

that's so true!

[Razzman]

I was at the 'bu dealer here in PHX a few months back and they had a Pink and Black Barbie boat... I wish I could have gotten a picture... I would have loved to see one of these rigs towing that barbie 'bu... :rolleyes:

Yup, Malibu had one of them at last years boat show and all the women were going ga-ga over it. I asked the salesman how many could they possibly sell in that config and he stated i'd be suprised. I seriously doubted him until i saw a guy post a pic of HIS new boat on WW and damned if it wasn't pink-n-black! :eek:

[Domsz06]

Yup, Malibu had one of them at last years boat show and all the women were going ga-ga over it. I asked the salesman how many could they possibly sell in that config and he stated i'd be suprised. I seriously doubted him until i saw a guy post a pic of HIS new boat on WW and damned if it wasn't pink-n-black! :eek:


A GUY POSTED PICS?

IS he gay? if a woman buys it fine, but a guy? wow she must have his balls around her pinky!

[Razzman]

A GUY POSTED PICS?

IS he gay? if a woman buys it fine, but a guy? wow she must have his balls around her pinky!

Had 'em around something but it would have to be alot bigger than a pinkie to get me to buy a PINK boat! :ro:

[Domsz06]

i'm sorry I would NEVER OWN ONE! ok, well I say never, i guess if she made millions then she could buy it. Heck I would never even step in one. She could have her boat, and I would have mine!:):D

[dogbert]

A GUY POSTED PICS?

IS he gay? if a woman buys it fine, but a guy? wow she must have his balls around her pinky!

The Barbie Hummer was a gift from the husband.

[Timmy!]

My buddy painted an H2 Pink/Black with Louis symbols on it for his buddies wife:
http://motorsport-concepts.com/trucks/images/DCP_2652.jpg

Close up of the LV:
http://motorsport-concepts.com/trucks/images/DCP_2656.jpg

[da.bell]

Ok, I take it back...only in the land of fruits and nuts :rolleyes:

No, then that would be located in San Francisco.... Not in the LA area... :D

[Domsz06]

wow still no way, i wouldn't care if you gave me a pink car it would be sold immediately

[G-MONEY]

real men like pink......


:p

[da.bell]

real men like pink......


:p

Yes, on their women. :D

[dogbert]

BTW, I read in Newsweek that the Nissan might discontinue the Titan.

[spharis]

http://motorsport-concepts.com/trucks/images/DCP_2656.jpg
Ghetto Fabulous.

[FacePlant]

Yikes on the pinkk trucks/boats!!!

Back on topic: I have a 2005 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi. It is rated to tow 6500#'s (more than my brother in laws new Tahoe @ 6200#), but I am nervous about pulling the new 24" Ve with it. Anyone have experience with this combo?? Thoughts???

[G-MONEY]

I cant tell you that it's not safe pull a 24Ve with a Grand Cherokee. It's just not big enough to handle the 24ve.

[chpthril]

Yikes on the pinkk trucks/boats!!!

Back on topic: I have a 2005 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi. It is rated to tow 6500#'s (more than my brother in laws new Tahoe @ 6200#), but I am nervous about pulling the new 24" Ve with it. Anyone have experience with this combo?? Thoughts???


Just looked @ chevy.com, depending on rearend ratio and engine, it might :eek: :confused: My I6 4.2L 4x4 Trailblazer is 6k :ro: :ro: :ro:

[CP3]

I just dont think the grand cher is big enough to handle well with a 24 foot boat behind it. I know it my be rated for it but it more than the rating to take into effect. one thing is brakes thats a small car trying to stop itself and a huge boat behind it

[Ruune]

the trailblazer is heavier and wider than the cherokee... thats why it has a 6k tow rating with a I-6. However I BELIEVE the grand cherokee with a hemi is rated at 6500-lbs. Its heavier than you think.

[ragboy]

I cant tell you that it's not safe pull a 24Ve with a Grand Cherokee. It's just not big enough to handle the 24ve.

I would agree. I have a 2002 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 with a 5.3L, and it is underpowered and underbraked for my 24Ve. I think it would have been fine with the 6.0L and bigger brakes. Its stable, and I have used it to take the boat to the shop and minor stuff, but def is underpowered for that monster.

[chpthril]

Yikes on the pinkk trucks/boats!!!

Back on topic: I have a 2005 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi. It is rated to tow 6500#'s (more than my brother in laws new Tahoe @ 6200#), but I am nervous about pulling the new 24" Ve with it. Anyone have experience with this combo?? Thoughts???

Just looked @ chevy.com, depending on rearend ratio and engine, it might :eek: :confused: My I6 4.2L 4x4 Trailblazer is 6k :ro: :ro: :ro:

the trailblazer is heavier and wider than the cherokee... thats why it has a 6k tow rating with a I-6. However I BELIEVE the grand cherokee with a hemi is rated at 6500-lbs. Its heavier than you think.

Didn't know you could find all that info about a JEEP on chevy.com :confused: :rolleyes: :D :ro:

I was referring to the bigger/heavier Tahoe

[dcsnowwake]

i pull my rz2 with a 2002 grans cherokee with the straight 6.....no problems, just when i get to the hills a little but, but around dc dont have to worry about it

[FacePlant]

i pull my rz2 with a 2002 grans cherokee with the straight 6.....no problems, just when i get to the hills a little but, but around dc dont have to worry about it

Sup man, I see you post over at DCWAKE.COM (Tige haters galore over there, haha). Yeah. I pretty much leave my boat at Lake Anna anyway. Only reason I am worried is because I may drag it to 1000 Islands New York this summer and that is a 7+ hr haul........

[Ruune]

Didn't know you could find all that info about a JEEP on chevy.com :confused: :rolleyes: :D :ro:

I was referring to the bigger/heavier Tahoe

someone was referring to a trailblazer, but looks like we're all incorrect on the grand cherokee's tow rating:

[Ruune]

this is also quite interesting...

[chpthril]

someone was referring to a trailblazer, but looks like we're all incorrect on the grand cherokee's tow rating:

That was me. Faceplant stated that the G/C had a 6500# tow rating, and the Tahoe had a 6200# tow rating.

I confirmed this on chevy.com, but depends on eng and rear end gear.

I was comparing the lighter/smaller, less hp, Trailblazer to the bigger/heaver, more hp Tahoe

[zad0030]

How bout a Durango

[Domsz06]

i-6= torque!!

[tessa]

I found a pic of one of them

Oh my gosh. A Polish interior designer got a hold of that Hummer. Wow how can some one spend good money on that?

[G-MONEY]

regardless what the towing capacity is on a GC or any other mid sized suv I would never tow a boat that weighs 4200 dry with one.....$.02

[Domsz06]

regardless what the towing capacity is on a GC or any other mid sized suv I would never tow a boat that weighs 4200 dry with one.....$.02
I would agree with you on this one g.

I had a 2 dr sport yukon pulling my 21IR Now it weights what abot 1200 less then your 24ve, and NO WAY would I do it. The yukon got pulled all over it. Yes it could pull it and yest it was rated to but it was very hard to stop and control. The boat pulled me all over the road as well due to the short wheel base.

Buy a good truck and you won't regret it.

I know SPBFAN has a titan for his 24 and it towes it just fine. I would get someting bigger still but hey each to his own.

If you really wanted a smaller tow rig I would upgrade to dual axle electric brakes and put a top of the line brake controller in your tow rig.

[zad0030]

Back in the day my dad and his cousin pulled their boat with a Camaro

[G-MONEY]

My parents pulled their first boat with a station wagon.....

[tessa]

How bout a Durango

We had a Durango. I would not reccomend it vs Tahoe, Jeep and a few others like Expedition if you want bigger.

The Durango's rear end hops over bumps when you are towing. At times the 2 in reciever made so much racket I thought I was at a new wave concert.

Even W/o Boat it road like a real stiff pickup. We owned a 99 and then an 02 and got rid of the 02 for an Expedition which doesn't (didn't) know my Fourwinns or my Brothers Maristar were there. Front and rear air and heat made for comfortable people and the herd that goes with. It has a soft ride with or without trailer. Only bitch is like all SUV's Mileage is 12-13 towing and 14 around town to 18.5 on the road with a lead foot. We have the XLT with 5.4.

The only good thing about the Durango's is the beast accelerated well.

[tessa]

i pull my rz2 with a 2002 grans cherokee with the straight 6.....no problems, just when i get to the hills a little but, but around dc dont have to worry about it

I had a Grand Cherokee with straight 6 and was good for just under 4000lbs with equalizing hitch. It could maintain 45-50 on long grade hills but coming down it did get pushed a little with drum breaks on the single axle trailer that never worked. that never worked.

I replaced the straight 6 Grand Cherokee with the 4.7 @#% HP V8 and never had an issue with towing the Four Winns I had that loaded for vacation over 4000lbstotsl ( the boat was a giant trunk). I also hauled the Maristar (23 ft) with the GC and it never had a pushing problem because it had dual disks on the trailer. I still have this for short hauls and playing in snow,mud,rain.

I would not pull a Tige 24VE or the RZ4 with a GC but my Expedition would handle them.

[da.bell]

I would not pull a Tige 24VE or the RZ4 with a GC but my Expedition would handle them.

I would agree that an Expedition would handle a 24Ve :D That is exactly what I am pulling mine with. :ro: :ro:

[G-MONEY]

I used a 99 Yukon 4x4 5.7L, 2003 Chevy 1500 with 4.8L and a 07 duramax 4x4 to pull our 24v. Although all worked with no problems nothing can compete with the duramax.

Surprisingly the 4.8L Chevy pulled better then the 5.7 Yukon IMO

[Lunchbox]

All right... New tow Vehicle purchased today...

2008 Infiniti QX56... We bought it used with 6,500 miles... It is loaded and absolutely perfect... Wife feels it's a little too big but I say it fits in the garage so it's not too big... :ro:

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9060&stc=1&d=1202959347

I'll take some better pictures this weekend...

LBX

[mtnsmith]

Nice, I just got my titan for christmas, same engine/trans as the QX56 and I love how it hauls. Also the '08 titan/armada/qx56 got the largest brakes they have put in a truck yet and that is where I really find value in a tow vehicle, I could care less how fast it gets it going, all I want to know is that it will stop me.

[Jason B]

Man, that looks really sharp! I've never seen an Infinity I liked that much. Maybe the rims do it!? Congrats! Looks good.

[samw]

LBX,
Nice Infiniti QX56 that will look sharp infront of a Tige....

Congrats.

[LadiesMan217]

Just traded my F-250 Power Stroke for a F-150:( Had to it was headed out of warranty and that 6.0 would have cost me big time! I'll miss that truck alot.....We'll have to see if Ford comes out with a reliable one in the future....that 6.4 is not the best either I've heard. That 150 tows like a champ though....we'll have to see how it pulls the 22i.

[buffman]

Just traded my F-250 Power Stroke for a F-150:( Had to it was headed out of warranty and that 6.0 would have cost me big time! I'll miss that truck alot.....We'll have to see if Ford comes out with a reliable one in the future....that 6.4 is not the best either I've heard. That 150 tows like a champ though....we'll have to see how it pulls the 22i.

Sorry you had to get rid of the diesel :( I absolutely love my GMC Sierra LBZ with the allison tranny it pulls my 5th wheel/jetski (triple tow) like its nothing so I know I wont have an issue with the Z1. But for camping My wifes Yukon will be pulling the Z1 and I am sure that V8 wont have an issue either.
I hear ya on the ford diesel it is a serious problem with those 6.0, but you will save alot of money now going to a V8 as diesel (at least around here) is crazy expensive still compared to gas...remeber when it used to be the other way around...geez oh well.
Rock on!

[Domsz06]

Just traded my F-250 Power Stroke for a F-150:( Had to it was headed out of warranty and that 6.0 would have cost me big time! I'll miss that truck alot.....We'll have to see if Ford comes out with a reliable one in the future....that 6.4 is not the best either I've heard. That 150 tows like a champ though....we'll have to see how it pulls the 22i.


why did you trade it in after warranty? diesel's last for ever? :confused:

[Lunchbox]

LBX,
Nice Infiniti QX56 that will look sharp infront of a Tige....

Congrats.

Thanks guys... It's raining here today so no pix yet... I want to go grab the boat and drive it around the block just to see how she pulls... I'm super excited...

I have some work to do this weekend in the garage but hopefully I'll have a few spare minutes to go grab the boat (It's only a mile away) and take some pix... Actually the wife "NEEDS" to get some towels out that we left in the boat after taking it out last weekend so if it's not raining it's on like donkey kong...

Incidentally I need to pick up a sleeve and ball to tow... Dealer wanted a small fortune... Anyone know where I can get something decent? I'd like to find something local like at a Wal-mart or Autozone or somewhere like that... Harbor Freight? Any advice would be appreciated...

LBX

[Domsz06]

lunchbox,

depending on the drop wal-mart and autozone has them. I got mine at a local trailer supply store.

break out the yellow pages:)

[Lunchbox]

break out the yellow pages:)

Do people actually still use those??? :D

Thanks Dom...

[Domsz06]

:)

they work good, or heck just google it, I know u use that!:)

[Domsz06]

u-haul has them to. I just don't know how much of a drop you need.

I have never been in a nice bad @$$ suv like that:D:bo:

[turbonine]

Incidentally I need to pick up a sleeve and ball to tow... Dealer wanted a small fortune... Anyone know where I can get something decent? I'd like to find something local like at a Wal-mart or Autozone or somewhere like that... Harbor Freight? Any advice would be appreciated...

LBX

Wal Mart will have the Reese brand, unless you need more than a 5" rise or drop that should do. I ended up getting on of those rapid hitch deals because I need about a 6 inch rise, and all I can say is that it is awesome. I also felt more comfortable that it is rated at 10,000 lbs and the Wal Mart ones are rated at 5,000 lbss.

[dogbert]

Incidentally I need to pick up a sleeve and ball to tow... Dealer wanted a small fortune... Anyone know where I can get something decent? I'd like to find something local like at a Wal-mart or Autozone or somewhere like that... Harbor Freight? Any advice would be appreciated...

LBX

Good luck with that. Unfortunately, the factory installed hitch is not exactly a standard size. I ended up getting one from the dealer :mad:

[Original Wing Nut]

My valentines gift and new toy transport vehicle. It is a 2007 that I picked up used with a whopping 700 miles on it. It was a smoking deal and I could not pass it up. I have been a GM guy for the last several years, but I'm sure this will treat me well. Does it count if you buy a gift for yourself?

[Timmy!]

Sweet dude!

[Lunchbox]

Very nice... Love the black... Sweet lift kit/tire combo...

[quick]

My valentines gift and new toy transport vehicle. It is a 2007 that I picked up used with a whopping 700 miles on it. It was a smoking deal and I could not pass it up. I have been a GM guy for the last several years, but I'm sure this will treat me well. Does it count if you buy a gift for yourself?

Awesome! You'll love the Toyo MT's they last forever and are the quietest mud terrain I have ever had on a truck. Are they 35's or 37's?

[Domsz06]

My valentines gift and new toy transport vehicle. It is a 2007 that I picked up used with a whopping 700 miles on it. It was a smoking deal and I could not pass it up. I have been a GM guy for the last several years, but I'm sure this will treat me well. Does it count if you buy a gift for yourself?

heck yeah it counts if you buy it for yourself:)

[Domsz06]

LOVE THE TRUCK BY THE WAY!!

let me know how you like that new dodge, have heard mixed reviews.

[ragboy]

Great looking truck.

[CP3]

Nice truck