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evil0ne
08-28-2007, 05:06 PM
Anyone know the diamater of my tower? I need some new racks.

http://lh5.google.com/dlehrner/Rl5QctegIYI/AAAAAAAAAW8/bojjfZ9OA9A/s800/CIMG0676.JPG"

da.bell
08-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Measure the perimeter of the tube and divide by 3.142857. That will give you the diameter. Now, if someone else can tell you then that's even better. :D :D :D

G-MONEY
08-28-2007, 05:10 PM
it's 2" ....95% sure

dogbert
08-28-2007, 06:14 PM
It's 2"....5% sure, so we gotcha covered :D

chpthril
08-28-2007, 06:23 PM
it's 2" ....95% sure

It's 2"....5% sure, so we gotcha covered :D

Blah hah hah :ro: cant argue with this logic :ro:

hoopykat
08-28-2007, 06:44 PM
If that's a Metcraft Tower, then yes...it's 2"" diameter.

Mike

G-MONEY
08-28-2007, 07:22 PM
Blah hah hah :ro: cant argue with this logic :ro:

How can you argue, it adds up to 100%:confused:



:p:p :D :D :ro: :ro: :ro:

evil0ne
08-28-2007, 07:48 PM
Measure the perimeter of the tube and divide by 3.142857. That will give you the diameter. Now, if someone else can tell you then that's even better. :D :D :D

If I had the boat nearby I would measure but unfortunately its nowhere near me.

If that's a Metcraft Tower, then yes...it's 2"" diameter.

Mike

Thanks.:cool:

Engloid
09-22-2007, 04:39 AM
It looks like 1.5", but it's hard to tell by looking at it.

Keep in mind that PIPE is not measured by the outside diameter.

talltigeguy
09-22-2007, 06:56 AM
It is 2". I am 96% sure. My Metcraft tower is 2". It looks nearly the same.

Engloid
09-22-2007, 12:56 PM
The reason I say it looks like 1.5" is because it looks smaller than the Tige towers...and the smallest of them is 2".

BTW, Tige is going to be offering a cheaper option tower in the future, but it still will be 2" pipe.

chpthril
09-22-2007, 01:12 PM
It looks like 1.5", but it's hard to tell by looking at it.

Keep in mind that PIPE is not measured by the outside diameter.

You are correct, PIPE is measured by ID. But this is not PIPE, this is TUBING and tubing is measured OD.

The reason I say it looks like 1.5" is because it looks smaller than the Tige towers...and the smallest of them is 2".

BTW, Tige is going to be offering a cheaper option tower in the future, but it still will be 2" pipe.

Well, I just measured MY entry-level, cheaper option "E" series Tige tower (I think we established in a previous thread that Tige only makes 2 towers) and it is 2.5" OD

I do not foresee Tige putting out any towers smaller then 2.5. No reason to step back to the days of cracks and wobbly towers :confused:

Engloid
09-22-2007, 01:38 PM
Well, I just measured MY entry-level, cheaper option "E" series Tige tower (I think we established in a previous thread that Tige only makes 2 towers) and it is 2.5" OD
Do remember that although the towers may have the same parts and look the same that they will not interchange between different Tige boats. The angles are all different.
I do not foresee Tige putting out any towers smaller then 2.5. No reason to step back to the days of cracks and wobbly towers :confused:
They want to offer a cheaper option. Unless I walked by it, saw it, and my memory is failing, you'll be seeing a 2" Tige tower in the future. It will not have the billet aft legs like they now do. You'll probably think it's a universal type tower, when you see it.

talltigeguy
09-23-2007, 12:33 AM
Engloid,

You talk like you have an inside connection...where do you get this information?

talltigeguy
09-23-2007, 12:36 AM
This is my 2 inch tower. You can see it is pretty much the same tubing as Evilone's.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3396&stc=1&d=1175704999

Engloid
09-23-2007, 12:46 AM
Engloid,

You talk like you have an inside connection...where do you get this information?

I've made many Tige towers myself. I personally made the jigs for several of the V series towers. ;)

I work for the current tower manufacturer. None are currently made at Tige.

I'm not so much here on their behalf, but might be able to answer some of the tower questions you guys have.

chpthril
09-23-2007, 02:30 AM
I've made many Tige towers myself. I personally made the jigs for several of the V series towers. ;)

I work for the current tower manufacturer. None are currently made at Tige.

I'm not so much here on their behalf, but might be able to answer some of the tower questions you guys have.

What boat is the "V" series used on, got pics?

Do you work for XTP or Skylon?

Engloid
09-23-2007, 03:15 AM
It's been months since I worked on them, so I'm not sure which boats they go on. In some cases, we may know a tower by a certain name, and then the boat manufacturer can use it on another boat (that has same basic dimensions), so it's hard to know exactly what all they use a tower on.

Skylon doesn't make towers for Tige. They may make some to fit the Tige, but they currently do not sell towers to Tige...I'm pretty sure. :)

chpthril
09-23-2007, 12:00 PM
It's been months since I worked on them, so I'm not sure which boats they go on. In some cases, we may know a tower by a certain name, and then the boat manufacturer can use it on another boat (that has same basic dimensions), so it's hard to know exactly what all they use a tower on.

Skylon doesn't make towers for Tige. They may make some to fit the Tige, but they currently do not sell towers to Tige...I'm pretty sure. :)

The "V" must be an old tower then :confused: So you work for Metcraft right.

Engloid
09-23-2007, 01:48 PM
The "V" must be an old tower then :confused: So you work for Metcraft right.
I built the jig for the tower that fits your boat...the 06 22ve. I wouldn't call that old, would you? :D We had to go down to Abilene and work on these jigs. In the process, we had to do several custom fit towers just to keep the flow of production running until we could complete the jig and get back to the shop to get our production going. It was a mess. I remember flying home on a Saturday and was planning to fly out to Atlanta on Sunday.... but my wife went into labor and had our son. It was really lucky that I had a 24hr span I'd be hime and she had the baby then. I wound up cancelling the Atlanta trip.


It does get confusing when you have so many towers with similar names: 22v 22ve 20i 22ssv, etc. It gets more complicated each year, as more new ones are made.

Do keep in mind that I'm here on my own, not so much as a rep of the company...so if I sometimes say something to piss somebody off (I've been known to offend people at times), don't take it out on the company. :)

chpthril
09-23-2007, 10:56 PM
I built the jig for the tower that fits your boat...the 06 22ve. I wouldn't call that old, would you? :D We had to go down to Abilene and work on these jigs. In the process, we had to do several custom fit towers just to keep the flow of production running until we could complete the jig and get back to the shop to get our production going. It was a mess. I remember flying home on a Saturday and was planning to fly out to Atlanta on Sunday.... but my wife went into labor and had our son. It was really lucky that I had a 24hr span I'd be hime and she had the baby then. I wound up cancelling the Atlanta trip.


It does get confusing when you have so many towers with similar names: 22v 22ve 20i 22ssv, etc. It gets more complicated each year, as more new ones are made.
Do keep in mind that I'm here on my own, not so much as a rep of the company...so if I sometimes say something to piss somebody off (I've been known to offend people at times), don't take it out on the company. :)

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2918

The Tower on my boat is an "E" series, not a "V" :confused: :confused: :confused: I'm asking about this "V" tower that you speak of.

If you refer back to this thread, a dealer, the head of Tige Warranty, and many knowledgible tige owners made it clear that Tige offers 2 towers - the "E" and "Z" series.

The "E" is available on on all models including the new Z1
The "Z" is available on the 22/24Ve, RZ2/4, and the all new Z1

If you go to www.tige.com , you will see what is offered per their web site.

No confusion on my part, after working 3 boat shows, this year, with my dealer, I have Tige options oozing out my pores :D By the way, Supra makes the SSv.

No one here is pissed of or offended, just curious who you do work for and where you get your info :confused: :confused: :confused: Most of us on here thirst for info about boats............especially Tiges :rolleyes:

Engloid
09-24-2007, 12:00 AM
http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2918

The Tower on my boat is an "E" series, not a "V" :confused: :confused: :confused: I'm asking about this "V" tower that you speak of.

If you refer back to this thread, a dealer, the head of Tige Warranty, and many knowledgible tige owners made it clear that Tige offers 2 towers - the "E" and "Z" series.
The keyword here may be SERIES. It may look like they only have two towers, but I would bet my life against $10mil that there are more than just two towers. Some have the same billet parts and general shape, but the dimensions and angles are different. On some, it may be something like just the front pad that sits angled differently.


The "E" is available on on all models including the new Z1
The "Z" is available on the 22/24Ve, RZ2/4, and the all new Z1
....
No confusion on my part, after working 3 boat shows, this year, with my dealer, I have Tige options oozing out my pores :D By the way, Supra makes the SSv.
The confusion is likely in what you (and Tige) call a tower, vs what it goes through production being called.

Lets say that we make a tower for the 24ve. We will build it and call it a 24ve. Tige may sell and market it as a Z series tower (for the 24ve). That likely isn't the same Z series tower that would fit the 22ve, RZ4, or RZ2. With over 200 types of towers we build, it's impossible to keep all the specifics in my head...much less keep them all correct. :D If you ask any of our guys which is a Z series, and they probably won't have any idea.

It's been a while since we did the prototyping on a lot of these towers, but if you want specifics, I can get more info. When I said 24ssv, I believe that we do make a tower for Tige that we call the 24ssv. I have no idea whose idea it was to make it confusing...but I guess somebody gets it all straightened out somewhere.

In some cases, we never even see the boat that we're making a tower to fit. We now have the ability to make a tower off of a 3d computer model of a boat. Other times, you may just pass by a boat during its 2-3 day stay at the shop, and never pay attention to what it is.

Being in the tower business, many things happen "behind the scenes" that people don't see. For example, we may have somebody call and want a tower for an 05 boat. If we send them one that's labeled an 06, they might just pitch a fit. If there was no change made in 06, we may still run it through the shop calling it an 05. It saves the trouble of having different part numbers for different years of towers that are the same exact part. The only people that have to know that an 05 and 06 are the same are the ones that take the orders and the ones that ship them. The production guys don't need to know or care.

You probably have figured out by now that I work for XTP. I'm hesitant to post it, but you guys backed me into a corner asking about it, and I'm not going to lie about it. ;) I tend to offend people now and then on the internet and don't want my personal doings to be seen as a reflection on the company. If you guys have any tower questions, I will do what I can to answer them.

dogbert
09-24-2007, 12:57 AM
I don't think you need to worry about getting bashed, if we know who you are, you'll get called upon to answer questions. We have a few manufacturers who are active on this site and they always provide excellent answers when there are questions, so don't be shy.

Welcome to the site!

Engloid
09-24-2007, 01:08 AM
I don't think you need to worry about getting bashed, if we know who you are, you'll get called upon to answer questions. We have a few manufacturers who are active on this site and they always provide excellent answers when there are questions, so don't be shy.

Welcome to the site!
I've been bashed before. I just don't want people to hate the company if I piss them off. :ro:

Thanks for the welcome.

I basically signed in here to see what people thought about the towers, and it appears that people like them, overall. Besides, it's definitely humbling (and motivating) to see you guys that can afford such nice boats. Tige does make a nice boat.

One thing to keep in mind with towers is that we do have the ability to make a tower that won't move at all, has tons of bling and all the things you wish they did... but we have to make what the boat companies will buy from us. Tige is the type of company that wants a good quality product...rather than the thing that will allow them the largest profit margin.

dogbert
09-24-2007, 03:28 AM
Personally, I love the new E & Z towers. Way better than the previous ones. I never was a big fan of the cage-style towers. I really like the fact that with the bimini up, I can stand underneath it. When you're 6'7", that's important. :ro:

Jetrey
09-24-2007, 04:19 AM
Tige calls my e series tower on my 07' ve' 2.5" but it actually measures 2.375 or 2-3/8" so is it pipe size or tubing size? the only good way to measure is with a micrometer. check at a local machine shop.

Engloid
09-24-2007, 06:40 PM
Ok, here's the scoop:

As I said before, we sometimes call a tower something different than dealers and the boat makers may. From my understanding, the Z series all has the large billet rear aft leg that folds inward. The E series has the smaller billet aft leg.

XTP makes 5 towers, and they are all different.
Jig Type
RZ2 (2.5) Z
RZ2 (2") E
24VE Z
22VE Z
20i E


So, for example, even though the 24ve and 22ve are both Z series towers, they will NOT interchange.

rushin
09-24-2007, 06:44 PM
I say 1 7/8. I have the same tower and I had to get inserts for the speaker clamps and the are that.

evil0ne
09-24-2007, 10:19 PM
So, for example, even though the 24ve and 22ve are both Z series towers, they will NOT interchange.

I'm pretty sure 99% of us already knew that. We understand that the dimensions are different but the look is the same.

Engloid
09-26-2007, 06:14 PM
I'm pretty sure 99% of us already knew that. We understand that the dimensions are different but the look is the same.

There was quite a debate about it a while back. You probably missed that thread.


I finally remembered and measured a piece of 1.5" PIPE here at work. It was 1.875".

third timer
09-27-2007, 06:40 PM
I built the jig for the tower that fits your boat...the 06 22ve. I wouldn't call that old, would you? :D We had to go down to Abilene and work on these jigs. In the process, we had to do several custom fit towers just to keep the flow of production running until we could complete the jig and get back to the shop to get our production going. It was a mess. I remember flying home on a Saturday and was planning to fly out to Atlanta on Sunday.... but my wife went into labor and had our son. It was really lucky that I had a 24hr span I'd be hime and she had the baby then. I wound up cancelling the Atlanta trip.


It does get confusing when you have so many towers with similar names: 22v 22ve 20i 22ssv, etc. It gets more complicated each year, as more new ones are made.

Do keep in mind that I'm here on my own, not so much as a rep of the company...so if I sometimes say something to piss somebody off (I've been known to offend people at times), don't take it out on the company. :)

Well nobody here would ever offend anyone else so watch it buddie!!! HE...HE...HE:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Congatulations(belated) on the baby.

Engloid
09-27-2007, 10:33 PM
Well nobody here would ever offend anyone else so watch it buddie!!! HE...HE...HE:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Congatulations(belated) on the baby.
Thanks! We're pretty happy with him. At 10.5 months, he's already got 8 teeth, and taking a couple steps here and there. :ro:

lee
09-28-2007, 02:03 AM
Can I jump in on this new argument? :D

Engloid
09-28-2007, 09:37 AM
Can I jump in on this new argument? :D

We're busy jacking this thread, can't you tell? :o