Poor water drainage in bow of 2003 21i

[jeffro]

when ever it rains or when the bow gets nosed under in the rollers, obviously water gets in the boat. Most of it goes into the 3 smaller storage compartments under the bow seats and front bow cushion. I don't mind the water getting in....the problem i have is drainage. I don't know if the carpet is blocking holes for those compartments or if holes even exist? Water sits unless i scoop it out and then leave the cushions off so that the compartments can dry out.

is there anything i can do to aleave the drainage problem?

Where should it drain? I do know that water will run from the bow to the storage under the port and starboard cockpit storage areas.

-j

[switchme]

I have a Switch I & have the same problem. I always use a wet/dry shop vac to get as much of the water out as possible. I really don't like to cover the boat with the carpet still wet but here in Washington covering a boat is necessary to keep it dry.

[forjar]

In my 2004 22I there is one drain hole that I know about that is under the carpet. For my boat it is located right outside of the small locker under the dash. I just lift the carpet and the water drains out.

[Domsz06]

I have an 2003 21i, and I don't have that problem. I know that I just pull the front area's up to dry and the next day everything is dry. I'll look and see if I have any drain holes and if I do I"ll let you guys know. I can't imagine mine being different then yours. I just let mine sit in the storage area, and it dries out.

Dom

[Dean]

I am having the same proble in my 2004 21i
Dean

[poohpotta]

Ditto, same problem with my 04 22V. Does anyone from Tige ever read these threads anymore?

[Matt Garcia]

poohpotta, more than a few people from Tigé read these threads and I try to point certain threads out to them. If I knew all of the answers I would help you out.

I know it can get frustrating sometimes not knowing certain components of your boat , thats one of the reasons why I built this site.

[poohpotta]

Sorry, I know I've had a few technical and general questions in the past but never got a response from Tige. I know a few dealers who are online and do provide helpful feedback at this site, which is great. It'd be cool if some of the designers/engineers/dealers had a blog on this site or a once-a-month online Q&A session.

The site is great, don't get me wrong, I wear my recently aquired tigeowners.com shirt proudly!

[Matt Garcia]

No need to apologize, I wasn't trying to come off as rude. ;)

I do however really like your idea, hopefully we can have something like that in the future. I am going to keep that in my mind for future updates and implementations.

Thanks for the compliments and your purchase!

[redrider23]

forjar, i have an 04 22v and if you could re-explain where that drain plug is it would help me out a bunch

thank you

redrider

[Ruune]

huh?? whaaa?? theres a drain plug in the front? I dont have to lug the shop-vac up into the boat to drain the front? :eek: :eek: :eek:

[jeffro]

i wouldn't mind knowing where it is on the 03 21i also!!!

anyone have pics?

[Dean]

If there is a drain in the bow I can't find it !
I have a 04 21i.

[jeffro]

ok, spoke with Harvey this morning (thanks harvey!!), on the 05 21i's there is now a drain hole to remedy our problems. He explained where we could drill on our 03-04 models to fix our issues, however i was without a notepad and pen. As soon as an 05 21i gets to our dealer here, i will try and post some pics of the location of the drainage hole. (unless anyone out there has an 05 they would be willing to take some snap shots of for us)

[Ruune]

is that just the 21i or is it all of the '05s?

[jeffro]

in this case, i'm specifically talking about the 21i, i didnt ask about any others

[dogbert]

I'd like to find out how to address this on my '99 21V also.

[joe8395]

And let's throw a 2000 21i in as well.

[TigeNoCo]

I had the same problem with my '02 21ir and I called Tige and they walked me through drilling a small hole in the corner of each compartment to help it drain faster. It didn't totally solve the problem but it does drain faster.

I would call them and speak with them on your particular boat and hull. You had to be somewhat exacting as you drilled it. I would post it here but to be very honest I can't remember off of the top of my head and don't want to give you any wrong advice when it comes to drilling into the hull. But you definitely can do it. Hope that helps a little.

[badass]

i have just been to the factory ,in abiline texas,i have a 2005 switch that has the same problem,so i asked the question to the tech guy,s.
if you drill a hole in each compartment,level with the floor,but not through it ,the water will drain away into the front section behind the steering cable etc.this will allow the water to drain into the hull and away to the bilge area.this works on both sides.
if you drill through the floor you will scrap your boat. because ther is foam directly under the front section of floor,and this is all sealed in.
if any body needs a pic i am giong to drill mine,when i take it in for the 20hour service.so mail me and i will forward the pics.
tige.switch@ntlworld.com

[tlarkin]

I get water under the two side front bow seats in my 2004 20V and we have to bail it out. There is a drain in the centre section, but apparently not in the sides, which are carpeted and it is a pain to drain and dry. Can anyone post a picture of where these drain holes should be drilled before I start poking holes in this thing? Thanks

[bneub]

The bow compartments of my 06 20i are very hard to dry. I don't get standing water, but since they are fairly small and deep, it takes a small fan to get them to dry. Some of this water also leaks back into the compartment behind the observers seat and the one on the drivers side which are also hard to dry. This year at powell, they wouldn't dry until I put a fan in them.

This gave me an idea...

What about rhinoliner or something similar inside the compartments as a factory option or standard? It could be wiped dry with a towell and easily cleaned. It would be non-slip so things wouldn't slide around in the compartments. It should help dampen noise like carpet does. Good durability.

I would think it would take about the same amount of labor to install at the factory as carpet.

[Ruune]

thats a damned great idea!

I'd also like to see it available in various colors in the following areas:
1.Transom- this will easily alleviate the nicks and scratches from boards.
2. Top edges of the boat, behind the tower base- provides a surface that has both scratch resistance and traction for passengers embarking and disembarking.
3. bow (top surface in front of the seats, at the very front of the boat)- same as above.
4. vertical surfaces of the walkway area to the bow- protects from boards being stuffed in there. Also, this is a high-traffic area.

[bneub]

Originally posted by Ruune
thats a damned great idea!

I'd also like to see it available in various colors in the following areas:
1.Transom- this will easily alleviate the nicks and scratches from boards.
2. Top edges of the boat, behind the tower base- provides a surface that has both scratch resistance and traction for passengers embarking and disembarking.
3. bow (top surface in front of the seats, at the very front of the boat)- same as above.
4. vertical surfaces of the walkway area to the bow- protects from boards being stuffed in there. Also, this is a high-traffic area.

The top edge of the boat would be awesome. It is slick when I stand there to get a board off of the rack. It would also help when I put the rear tower supports down to fold the tower.

I talked to a guy in town that does another brand of spray in liner. He said he can mix about any color I want.

[dogbert]

That's an awesome idea...maybe Tige can make that an option.

[BrentRR]

I realize there hasn't been any posts on this lately, but I was wondering if anybody has this resolved.

I have a 2005 24V and it does the same thing. Sure seems like this would be a basic thing for a boat that is going to potentially get wet often...

[Wake Havasu]

Dryer for you guys in humid areas (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/overtons/detail/pdetail2.cgi?r=detail_view&item_num=71503&fcat=2Q5)


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[dogbert]

Well, I found out my boat cover leaks (getting a new one). I am really thinking hard about pulling the carpet and replacing it with some sort of gator grip material that's easy to wipe down. Any thoughts on that?

[Tequilasun]

Dog,

Home Depot and Lowe's sell a do it your self bedliner type spray. I Forget what it is called.

I used it on the inside of my canoe to keep my cooler from slipping around.

[BrentRR]

But fundamentally shouldn't the bow area drain? I have read where other manufacturers promote how well all areas of their boats drain. Is this an oversight by Tige or is it supposed to drain but just doesn't?

[tlarkin]

I agree, what my problem is is that if water gets in those compartments, it is up to 6 to 8 inches deep, and the only way to get it out is to bail it, then it takes a few days to dry the carpet. Dehumidifiers and replacing the carpet with a coating is not the solution for this issue, and I am reluctant to start drilling holes in things.

[bneub]

I haven't done anything with mine yet. I am thinking about talking to someone who does the spray in liners and see what they think. Some of the compartments are small and I don't know if they could get in to spray them. It would make a good winter project.

[flyboy]

I feel your pain guy's. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones (one of two to be exact) that has a closed bow Tige 20ci.

[thewaterpup]

2004 Switch I.

After a weekend of play on the water I have a 1/2"to 1" of water. We use a sponge at night to pull the water out. Its a real pain. We park the boat on land on Sunday night with the nose pointed to the sky to drain. Its always gone by Friday night. I personally have no interest in drilling holes in the floor of my boat but I am going to ask the dealer if he will drill the holes when we do the winter service.

Thanks for the idea

[chpthril]

My o6 22Ve is no better. I am looking into putting in a THRU-HULL from each side bow storage into the console storage. Then put some hose on and Tee it into the cup-holder drain hoses. This should (I HOPE) allow most of the water to drain into the console and then into the bilge, but through the hose and not over the carpet in the console storage.

[BrentRR]

Does anyone know why Tige` is not addressing this? I agree with thewaterpup in not wanting to drill into the floor.

[tobo57]

I never had a problem with water in my glove box and I see Tige put a drain on the newer ones.When I figure how to add add drains to front storage bins I'll do it .Shoud be a good winter project as season winding down.

[scottcarlye]

over 1200 views makes this one of the most popular threads on the site. Hopefully Tige will take notice of this. Water sloshes around under my 21i's bow seats until i soak it up with a towel but I am paranoid to go drilling holes......

[dogbert]

Originally posted by scottcarlye
over 1200 views makes this one of the most popular threads on the site. Hopefully Tige will take notice of this. Water sloshes around under my 21i's bow seats until i soak it up with a towel but I am paranoid to go drilling holes......

Silly us for using the boat in the water :D

[jklaus]

I am a little confused as to how the hull is constructed with various stringers & compartments. The direct drive seems to have an open channel to the bow of the boat, but not sure what the shape is like or any obstructions near the spotter's seat or driver's seat. Then near the driveshaft the bilge seems separate from the sides to the transom. Does the back open up allowing all water, no mater where in the hull to easily drain back towards the transom or under engine area or other common place? Or are there places water may get trapped due to stringer placement?

Thanks, Jeff

[chpthril]

I installed my Bow Drains (http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2902&highlight=water+in+bow) and posted the install in How To. Don't know if it works yet, hate to poor water in the bow since it takes sooo long for the carpet to dry.

Well, take a look guys and tell me what ya think, ie better idea, improvement!

[tobo57]

I have 03,21i with this problem.I took about a 1and1/2" drill and went thru the bottem inside rear of the front conpartments.My main concern was to drill into foam or hit the runners.Hole went thru no problem.I felt underneath and it is clear around the holes.I used the holes for the hose for ballest.
I don't know if this will work on your boat or not.it worked for me.

[chpthril]

I think we figured out that you could do that up til 04 or 05, then the sub-floor chanded, and there are stringers/floatation up there now.

[Domsz06]

you know an easy solution for this is just keep the bow from dipping under the water:D

[chpthril]

you know an easy solution for this is just keep the bow from dipping under the water:D

Bet that was easy to type huh :p :rolleyes: Now try it in the real world :D

[Domsz06]

:) hey now chpthril, I have the boat we are all talking about, I keep mine out:D

Ok, sometimes it is hard I agree, but hey, it's the smart @$$ in me;)

this really is a good idea and tread

[tobo57]

Yes you should not dunk the bow,also make sure your riders are dry in bow and heven forbid if you get caught in the rain.

[dougofkc]

I drilled a hole on each side under the seat to solve this same prob. Now if I could just get the inside of the hull to drain completely. I like my old 20i with the drain plug in the center. would be nice to have this option on the new on.

I have 03,21i with this problem.I took about a 1and1/2" drill and went thru the bottem inside rear of the front conpartments.My main concern was to drill into foam or hit the runners.Hole went thru no problem.I felt underneath and it is clear around the holes.I used the holes for the hose for ballest.
I don't know if this will work on your boat or not.it worked for me.

[make_a_wake]

I had the same problem with my 21 i with the rollers and such but now when I have to turn around i almost stop the boat turn around at like 5 mph and no rollers, Nick showed me that one. Not sure how you can get rollers if you do do that though?

[zad0030]

I had the same problem with my 21 i with the rollers and such but now when I have to turn around i almost stop the boat turn around at like 5 mph and no rollers, Nick showed me that one. Not sure how you can get rollers if you do do that though?

Rollers from your boat aren't as much as a problem as rollers from another boat. Like if you go to the lake of the ozarks boats out there less than 26 feet are considered sunk. There are so many big boats on the main channel the almost need stop lights. Ok maybe not stop lights, but theres a ton of boats and your garuenteed to take a few over the front.

[Domsz06]

it's all about the driver, I never sink the bow unless I want to, but it's everyone else driving when I'm boarding that causes a prob.

[mtnsmith]

I hear ya there. There are three people I trust to drive me, if one of them is not with us that day, I do not board. It kinda sucks sometimes, but oh well, I don't want a roller over my bow. Or worst, someone to catch a crab trap and mangle the prop shaft or rudder.

[spharis]

Stay away from Holly Beach and you won't have to worry about all the crab traps!

I have to watch for trot lines here......

[Domsz06]

there are times where I don't get to board. But if my gf is with me as long as it's not really busy she does a great job, so it's all good.

[zad0030]

Im the best driver for my family:D :cool:

its so much fun;)

[make_a_wake]

Rollers from other boats arent really a problem at my lake becuase there is not alot of bigs boats on it and its..spaced out I guess. In a busy lake I'm sure there a big problem though