View Full Version : Anyone ever seen this before???
bfrank
06-02-2004, 01:03 AM
Check this out, this is my gas guage. What would cause this to seperate like this. This also happened to my hour meter, which is in a spot that could get knocked. But the fuel guage is way out of the way. Where can I get a replacement one just like this, I see overtons has aftermarket one for $22.00. Has anyone else had this problem????
CTRider
06-02-2004, 04:40 PM
I had the exact same problem with the hour meter and now my gas gauge is doing the same thing. I glued the hour meter back together and will do the same to the gas gauge. Where did you see them for $22.00?
bfrank
06-02-2004, 05:16 PM
On Overtons site here is the link. http://www.overton.com/cgi-bin/overtons/order/large.cgi?34801
bfrank
06-02-2004, 05:17 PM
What year is your boat??? Seems fishy that we both had the same guages have the same problems. I wonder if Tige would do anything for us???
Harvey
06-02-2004, 06:12 PM
The vendor was VDO and they only covered the gauges for two years. Tige stoped using the gauges in 1999.
bfrank
06-02-2004, 06:35 PM
Was this a common problem?
CTRider
06-02-2004, 07:08 PM
I have a 1998 Pre2200V. Thanks for the link to the guage.
bfrank
06-02-2004, 07:21 PM
I just got a post form another site and they claim that VDO had a manufacturing problem. Here's the link: http://eclipse.nicholls.edu/cgi-bin/BBS/webbbs_config.pl?frames
downhilldad
06-02-2005, 03:03 AM
My 1998 Tige 22i has the exact same problem. where the guage face seperated from the guage body.. took the shrink wrap off just this week.. the boat didnt have this problem last year when I put it away.
looks like the plastic body degrades over time..
anyone else have this problem...
bfrank
06-02-2005, 12:31 PM
I ended up buying all new guages from Tige. I dont remember the parts guy name, but I had first talked to Andrew and he put me in touch with him. I think it was around $200 and I replaced all the guages.
downhilldad
06-07-2005, 04:50 AM
what did you replace your guages with? Did you use the VDO's again?
My temp, oil pressure, fuel, and voltmeter all had the face break away from the body of the gauge
I believe the part numbers are 310 239, 350 240, 310 216 and 332 241.. they are White Faced gauges with a plastic body. I am not sure if they are the Cockpit White 2 1/6" or the Pro Cockpit White 2 5/8" .
bfrank
06-07-2005, 12:33 PM
I bought the guages right from Tige I believe the are Faria guages. It took alittle bit to figure out how to make them work, the VDO guages have diffrent connections, but in the end it wazs well worth it. Call Tige and ask for Andrew, he will point you in the right direction.
bfrank
06-07-2005, 12:34 PM
Also I replaced every guage, I figured if one was bad now, they all would need replacing some day.
Beau McCrory
06-20-2005, 06:17 AM
andrew, tom austin, or bob means can help you
spharis
08-06-2006, 02:22 PM
I know old thread, but it was brought up in a thread recently......just wanted to add that on my 97 all the gauges are Faria, and no cracking yet. Just some sun bleached spots on the needles, and of course the fuel gauge dances......sending unit issue probably.
dogbert
08-07-2006, 12:32 AM
I've got a '99 with all Faria guages and they've always worked.
bfrank
08-07-2006, 12:04 PM
spharis I know old thread, but it was brought up in a thread recently......just wanted to add that on my 97 all the gauges are Faria, and no cracking yet. Just some sun bleached spots on the needles, and of course the fuel gauge dances......sending unit issue probably.
My guess is your guages were already replaced!!!
dogbert
08-07-2006, 12:26 PM
BTW, Faria makes a really nice fuel flow meter and a multi-function depth/temp/water temp guage as well. Anybody out there try these?
TeamAllen
08-07-2006, 12:30 PM
Mine are original 97 gauges and still holding in there.
Dog - what size is the Faria gauge you write of?
bfrank
08-07-2006, 12:36 PM
Are they VDO???
spharis
08-07-2006, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by dogbert
BTW, Faria makes a really nice fuel flow meter and a multi-function depth/temp/water temp guage as well. Anybody out there try these? I have a fuel flow arriving on the big brown bus today :)
spharis
08-07-2006, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by bfrank
My guess is your guages were already replaced!!! I dbl checked and i was incorrect....2 of my cluster are Faria....so it looks like only two have been replaced.
I noticed the speedos, fuel, hour, voltmeter are all VDO....the left hand side are faria.......guess I didnt pay attention past that.
TeamAllen
08-07-2006, 01:43 PM
Mine are all VDO.
bfrank
08-07-2006, 01:49 PM
TeamAllen,
You must be one of the luck ones!!!
It seems that all of the VDO guages from that era were almost always bad. Falty plastic.
scottcarlye
08-07-2006, 02:02 PM
DITTO for me as well, had the VDO HOBs gauge break off in exactly the same manner. Its on a 96 FSLM
dogbert
08-07-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by TeamAllen
Mine are original 97 gauges and still holding in there.
Dog - what size is the Faria gauge you write of?
They looked to be the same size as the fuel/temp/battery/TAPS/depth finder gauge...in other words, the smaller gauges you see on my dash.
My fuel gauge actually works, although it's only as accurate as that type of gauge can be on a boat, but I kinda have it figured out about now. I'm spoiled on my truck where it tells me when I will run out of gas :D
The chrome on the Faria gauges has held up very well and they all still look good.
spharis
08-07-2006, 05:14 PM
http://images.shipstore.com/ss/images/far/farffm002.jpg
The faria fuel flow I will be adding.
bought it here.
http://www.boatersland.com/far-ffm002.html
delivered today
http://wwwapps.ups.com/ietracking/tracking.cgi?tracknum=1ZE6710A0307006370
dogbert
08-07-2006, 05:36 PM
Let me know how you like it and how easy it is to install.
spharis
08-07-2006, 05:50 PM
Yeah, I have to figure out where I want to tap my fuel line first. Anyone have any fuel flow install pics......line shots?
mtnsmith
08-07-2006, 06:52 PM
The current issue of Motor Boating Magazine has a fuel flow meter install DIY in it. May be worth checking out. Here is their website.
http://www.motorboating.com/motorboat/
Domsz06
08-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by spharis
http://images.shipstore.com/ss/images/far/farffm002.jpg
The faria fuel flow I will be adding.
bought it here.
http://www.boatersland.com/far-ffm002.html
delivered today
http://wwwapps.ups.com/ietracking/tracking.cgi?tracknum=1ZE6710A0307006370
can you use this flow meter in a EFI motor? or carb only?
dogbert
08-08-2006, 05:20 PM
The description indicated that it would work with any motor that did not have a fuel backflow system. You see this predominantly on diesels, but apparently also on gasoline engines. It would be helpful to get clarification from those on this board who could answer that for Tige powerplants.
spharis
08-08-2006, 08:23 PM
Only restriction I see is 34GPH.....I hope you get better burn rate than that.
Domsz06
08-08-2006, 08:25 PM
I would love to get a flow meter since the gauge is just crap. I mean it was showing empty, then when we fill it up, we only put 20 gallons in. Oh well, guess I'll just keep on using it till we get clarification
Paublo
08-09-2006, 08:06 PM
There were a few posts on fuel flow meters last year. I paid $130 for one and $30 for a fuel filter to install in front of the transducer. After the first tank of gas, I made one adjustment in calibration. Now if it says that I've used 20.5 gallons, I've used 20. It really provides peace of mind.
They are easy to install too. On my MP engine I put the new filter in the gas line from the tank to the fuel pump. It is easy to access if I remove the divider on the port side of the motor. Then I put the transducer on the vertical, as the gas line rises to the factory pump/filter.
I didn't have any room on my dash for the gage, so I mounted it in a polished alum. bezel that I hung below the dash, in the lower right corner of the dash. It almost looks factory. It is the best thing that I've added to my boat.
dogbert
08-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Paublo
There were a few posts on fuel flow meters last year. I paid $130 for one and $30 for a fuel filter to install in front of the transducer. After the first tank of gas, I made one adjustment in calibration. Now if it says that I've used 20.5 gallons, I've used 20. It really provides peace of mind.
They are easy to install too. On my MP engine I put the new filter in the gas line from the tank to the fuel pump. It is easy to access if I remove the divider on the port side of the motor. Then I put the transducer on the vertical, as the gas line rises to the factory pump/filter.
I didn't have any room on my dash for the gage, so I mounted it in a polished alum. bezel that I hung below the dash, in the lower right corner of the dash. It almost looks factory. It is the best thing that I've added to my boat.
Got pics?
Paublo
08-09-2006, 10:07 PM
I'll take some pics this weekend and post them.
Paublo
08-14-2006, 05:15 PM
I took some pictures- I hope that these are helpful. This first one in the readout mounted on the bottom edge of the dash. I mounted it in a piece of sheet metal screwed to the dash and finished with a polished alum. bezel. It almost looks factory.
Paublo
08-14-2006, 05:19 PM
This is the fuel filter that had to be mounted before the meter. The gas line is routed exactly where this filter is- along the edge of the engine compartment. I just cut out a section and clamped them to the filter. You are looking at the top of the filter head.
Paublo
08-14-2006, 05:29 PM
This last picture is of the fuel meter. It is hard to see, but you are looking at the top of it. The grey hose comes off of the top of the meter and runs into the factory MP fuel filter/pump. The meter is located just behind the motor mount. It should be installed in the vertical. I used some zip ties to help hold it in place.
I didn't ever want to have any of this ever be the cause of stranding me on the lake, so I took an 18" section of gas hose and clamped a barbed connection on each end. I keep this on the boat so that if the extra filter should plug or the meter to restrict flow, I can bypass the whole thing with my extra piece of hose. The whole installation took 1-1/2 hours.
R&T Babich
08-13-2007, 05:28 PM
Very similar install on our boat. Works great! I replaced the clock with the FUEL FLOW gauge. Made sense to put it next to the FUEL gauge. I added a second fuel/water seperator between the tank and the sensor. The Mercruiser fuel/water seperator hanging on the right front of the engine is a pain to get to.
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