Start Up Squeek

[TixyB]

I took my 20V out for the 2nd time yesterday and I am now hearing a quick squeek from the trans. or somewhere around there. It happens about 1 to 2 seconds after the engine starts. Can anyone help? Is there sonthing I can lubricate? and, Is this somthing I sould be concerned about? Thanks.

[Zacky]

Are you sure it is coming from the tranny? In my experience, squeeking usually comes from the belt/pully...

[TixyB]

I believe that it is coming form the floor, or around that area. I would think if it was a belt of pully that it would be continuous? Im not really positive. I will search it out further next time we take it out. I was just wondering if anyone else has had this experiance.

[Matt Garcia]

Usually that sound is a belt or pulley like Zacky said. 9 out 10 times that sound has either been a seized impeller pump or bad belt.

[whitlock87]

Is the boat in Gear?
If so check all the shaft seals.

There are not many things that can squeak at that location.
You have small shaft coming from the transmission, and going to the V-Drive.
There is a second shaft coming out of the V-drive going through the hull off the boat.
There are a total of 4 seals. (The seal going through the hull is a different type then the others.)
I have had this happen to the transmission on a Saturn before. It would squeak for a few seconds when you started to drive it, and then it would be quiet till the next day.

If the shaft seal going through the hull is too tight (not getting wet) it might squeak,
Again this would only happen when the boat is in gear.

If the squeak happens before you put the boat in gear, there is nothing that I can think of back there that would do that, everything is in the front of the engine like the other said.

You will probably need to run the boat with some of the cover s off and the engine hatch open. Have somebody else start the boat while your listening for the sound.

Good luck
David

[TixyB]

No. Its in nutral. You know when you start the engine and it revs. up and then drops to idle... right after the revs. start to drop it squeeks.

[whitlock87]

My money is on soothing in the front of the engine.
It could be a loose belt, Water pump, Pickup pump, or the alternator.

When you find the problem, please let us know.

Thanks David
:confused:

[TixyB]

Thank you. I will keep you all posted.

[Andrew]

With the boat out of gear this eliminates the drive train. I would check the belt first. The other item could be the impeller after sitting so long it has dried out and once it starts getting the water circulated it will stop. How long since you used the boat last and what motor is installed. If you want to pm me that info that will be great or give me a call 325-676-7777.

Andrew

[NICKYPOO]

Is it a constant squeel or a squeek squeek squeek squeek?

[TixyB]

No its just once when you start the engine. (every time)

And for those of you out there who think I can't spell... I spelt squeak, squeek to discribe the sound it makes with the long ee. :) Thanks for all of your help.

[whitlock87]

I had a thought.
After your done for the day, do you run the engine after you pull the boat out of the water?
If so you could removing all the water from the pickup pump.
It would dry up, and the next time you start the engine it might make some noise until the water starts to flow.

If so try not running the engine after you pull the boat out of the water.
(I personally never run the engine out of the water)

David

[TixyB]

No, I do not dry run the engine. I dont think that, that would be very smart!

[CP3]

My friend told me to dry the engine but I told him he's stupid and I'm not going to do that with a new 50K boat.

[tigetek]

The noise that you are hearing is the water and fluid going through the transmission. It only happens on start up and last couple few seconds. Some boats do it more then others but do not be alarmed. as long as the noise you are hearing is at the trans at start up.

[gman]

tigetek
What is causing the squeek. I do not think a flowing fluid squeeks. It has to be something mechanical. Is it a pump or what?

[mjirving]

I'll bet if you tighten the tension on your serpentine belt it goes away. I'll bet it's "slipping" at the beginning until the impeller starts kicking over and turning.

[Domsz06]

My boat squeeks all the time. It's coming from the belt. I figured it out because if I spray some belt dressing on the belt it goes quiet, but then comes back. What things should I check?

Could the belt be loose?
Could the belt be old?

I have a 2003 21IR with 205 hours on it, it's the original belt. Any experience would be greatly appreciated. How do I tell if the belt is old or needing replaced.

Thanks in advance.

Dom

[mjirving]

I don't know what "belt dressing" is. Is that something that would make it more "grippy"?

Anyhow, from my experience, it sounds like you don't have enough tension on the serpentine belt. If you look in your engine owner's guide there should be a segment on how to tighten it. On my boat, (going off memory) it requires two tools on (I think) the upper pulley. You put two wrenches on it. I think its an open end wrench to use as a lever to pull the assemble tighter on the belt and then an Allen wrench to loosen and tighten the pulley into the new position. I made mine pretty tight and that solved the problem. When it's loose, it squeaks something awful on start up which is the pulley slipping on the belt. This eventually overheats the belt and breaks it. My guess would be that if this has been going on for awhile, the belt may be weak already. I'd certainly look for cracking. If it were me, I'd just buy a new belt and keep it on hand until the other one breaks, then you've got one on hand just in case.

That's my take on it, (which is far from a professional opinion)

Good luck and let me know what you discover.

Mike

[Domsz06]

Thanks for the info. I remember tightening it last year after I replaced the impeller, but I still haven't checked it. I always get sidetracked trying to get on the water. I'm going to try and get a belt just in case today from O'Rielys. I'm doing maintance work on the boat sat, so i'll hopefully find something out so that way I can test my work on sunday when I take it out;)

3 years on the orginal belt is prob time to get a new one anyway. Have about 220 hours on it.

[ghollow]

Sounds like it is coming from your serpentine belt. As they get older, they start to dry out and can slip a little until they warm up. If this is the case, it will get worse with time and eventually break. I would go ahead and replace it anyway after three years.
I replace mine every two years. Getting stuck out on the lake with a broken belt is no fun.

[Domsz06]

Thanks for the advice everyone. I just tightened it and it went away. New belt along with a back up impeller are on the way.

Dom