Replacing flax packing

[seymoc1]

I recently replaced the old flax packing in the stuffing box on my 2000 Tige 21V. I have a couple questions to anyone who has done this before. I pulled the old flax out, which had been leaking excessively. Well only two rings were inside the packing nut. I purchase 3/16" GTO dripless flax and cut out five rings. I installed the rings, staggering the joints as noted in the instructions. It appeared the stuffing was small, by that I mean it was fairly easy to push down into the packing nut. I was anticipating a much tighter fit as the old stuffing was difficult to remove. I haven't had the boat in the water since I replaced the stuffing so I haven't determined if I have the wrong size flax or what kind of drip rate per minute I'm going to end up with.


I would like to hear from anyone who has done this before. Does anyone know if 3/16" flax is the correct size for a Tige? I sent an email to Tige and Andrew responded with that size. Just curious.

Thanks in advance!


chris

[tobo57]

I replaced the packing in my old Supra.The packing they sent me I thought was too big.The bottom line they should know whats right.It worked fine.I would say when you tighten the packing nut it will seal just fine.

[seymoc1]

That's what I wanted to hear. I'm going to try and get her in the water this weekend and make any final adjustments necessary.


Thanks for the quick response.


chris

[Tige M.D.]

The packing rope should be 1/4" and 2 rings is all your going to get in there. One on each side of the nylon washer. The drip rate should be 1 drop every 4-5 seconds. Any less and you can burn the shaft.
Two suggestions, replace the packing with the correct rope or step up to the PSS system. It is a mechanical seal that requires no adjusting. 10 year warranty.

[seymoc1]

Great.... I was hoping to put the boat in the water this weekend. Here is the email I got from Andrew:

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Chris

This was a packing shaft seal and sounds like the packing needs to be replaced. Please contact your dealership and they can accomplish this and they will need to use a 3/16 flax packing. Once this is replaced this should solve your problem. If there are any further questions please let me
know.

Thanks

Andrew

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How do I verify the size of the packing? Is it trial and error? Or should I order some 1/4" and go from there?


Thanks,

Chris

[Harvey]

3/16 is what comes in the units from the factory. You can use eather.

[seymoc1]

Ok. Cool.. I just put in an order for some GFO 1/4" flax from emarine-inc just to be safe. Thanks for the quick response.

http://www.e-marine-inc.com/products/gfopacking/packing.html

[Ruune]

what type of packing do the '04s use, and how often does it need to be changed?

[Harvey]

We use PSS now and there is no packing to change.

[jeffro]

Originally posted by Harvey
We use PSS now and there is no packing to change.

yet another reason why i bought my 03 tige. i almost forgot about that.

[seymoc1]

Originally posted by jeffro
yet another reason why i bought my 03 tige. i almost forgot about that.

That brings up a great point. I have looked into purchasing the PSS shaft seal but I'm a couple hours from the nearest dealer for installation. Does anyone have experience installing these? Is it something for the do-it-yourself crowd?


Should I start another post for this question?

[Andrew]

You can do it yourself and I can walk/talk you through it. Not that difficult and should take a couple of hours. Give me a call 325-676-7777 and I can explain everything to you. BTW my time is only $75 hr for phone calls, j/k

[seymoc1]

Originally posted by Andrew
You can do it yourself and I can walk/talk you through it. Not that difficult and should take a couple of hours. Give me a call 325-676-7777 and I can explain everything to you. BTW my time is only $75 hr for phone calls, j/k


Now that's service!

What is the propeller shaft size or PSS part number I would need? I'll order one and give you a call. Their instructions make is seem easy but that is what scares me, seems too easy.


http://www.shaftseal.com/pss-shaft-seal-installation-instruction.html

[Harvey]

Shaft 1 1/8 part number 01-118-134-boxed

[seymoc1]

Originally posted by Harvey
Shaft 1 1/8 part number 01-118-134-boxed


Should that Part # be 02_118_134? I can't find the 01_118_134 on their site. But it could just be me...

Here is the one I found. Got any suggestions on whom to order from?

http://www.pyiinc.com/?section=browse&action=product-detail&sku=02118134&sn=12

[Harvey]

That one is water injected and you don't want it. You might call them or call Nelems Marine in Jasper they are good people. 205 221-3072

[seymoc1]

Finally got the boat in the water for the first time this year on Sunday. Had the wife with me so I was able to adjust the stuffing box/Flax packing. Which was much easier than I had anticipating. Everything I read said to put the nut on hand tight plus a half turn. Well, that was way to tight and the stuffing box was HOT after just a few minutes. Turned out that the correct adjustment was about a 1/4 turn in from leaking sitting still... if that makes sense. Anyway... we rode for about an hour and checked it again, no leak and not hot!!!


I'm still waiting to hear back from Nelems on the Packless shaft seal... but for now I'm on the WATER!!!! Now if it would just warm up enough to wakeboard.


--chris

[shane]

I have a 1999 2200V and I was wondering how much a PSS would be for my boat?

[Tige M.D.]

Should'nt be more than $200 for the parts.

[shane]

Thanks. I guess the labor will be 200 or more.

[norcalatver]

Does anyone know if the PSS system will work for my 1997 22v Tige? And also what part #? Thanks.

[shane]

I just had the PSS installed on my 1999 22V and it is great the bottom of the boat stays dry almost all day long now. The bilge pump never kicks on anymore. Just call andrew or harvey at TIGE and they can hook you up with the right part.

[hanzj]

seymoc1,

Thanks for putting up links to all this stuff. I have a 2000 21V and thought it might be time to replace the flax packing....turns out I already have the PSS!

[norcalatver]

Originally posted by shane
I just had the PSS installed on my 1999 22V and it is great the bottom of the boat stays dry almost all day long now. The bilge pump never kicks on anymore. Just call andrew or harvey at TIGE and they can hook you up with the right part.
Thanks, Shane. I called Harvey and he hooked me up!

[shane]

great, you will be real happy with the new system.

['99 2100 V LTD]

What would be the PYI PSS shaft seal product ID for a 99 2100 v ltd, what special tools do I need, how much time should I allow, and can this be done on the trailer?

Thanks for the info.

['99 2100 V LTD]

QUOTE]'99 2100 V LTD What would be the PYI PSS shaft seal product ID for a 99 2100 v ltd, what special tools do I need, how much time should I allow, and can this be done on the trailer?[/QUOTE]

Bumping to the top. Hoping for an answer.[

[norcalatver]

Call tige'. they'll know exactly what you need for your packing. That's what I did.