Oppinions Needed!! Trailer wheels and tires

[mikehayburn]

Hey Yall..
Looking to put 18in Rims on my trailer and i see alot of 20's and some 18's..The question is .. First..what size tires are going on the 18s to fit: the fender and are they a upgraded "load rated" tire or standard "car" tire??:confused:

Any help is appriciated..Thank you:cool:

[da.bell]

Is this for a new boat or your existing boat? Are you putting the boat into a garage? The 20's will make it a little harder to put a boat into any garage IMO.

[Timmy!]

I have a trailer with the 20's and they are Goodyear Eagle's that appear to be car tires but their load rating is like 3,200 lbs per tire. They might actually be light truck tires. I think mine are 275/50's if I remember right. David is right, the 20's won't allow your boat to fit into a standard 7' tall garage door.

[mikehayburn]

Is this for a new boat or your existing boat? Are you putting the boat into a garage? The 20's will make it a little harder to put a boat into any garage IMO.

No garage..Thanks for the input:ro:

[majestic]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

[thtrog]

Mike,
I bought a new boat last summer on a Boatmate trailer and wanted to put 18's on it before taking it off the lot. I called Boatmate with the trailer serial number; I was told I would need to replace both axles and install wider fenders. This may not be the case for you, but I still would advise you to check with your trailer manufacturer. Let us know what you do, plus pics.

[ajholt7]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

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[mikehayburn]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

No its not for the bling... my rims and tires need replacing bad.. i think one rim is out of round.. and when the boat was trailerd here it shreaded the tire to the metal cords so to buy the stock trailer rim and 4 tires.. I have the oppertunity for alittle more $ i can get the 18s.. I do get what your saying though

[thtrog]

No its not for the bling... my rims and tires need replacing bad.. i think one rim is out of round.. and when the boat was trailerd here it shreaded the tire to the metal cords so to buy the stock trailer rim and 4 tires.. I have the oppertunity for alittle more $ i can get the 18s.. I do get what your saying though

Makes sense...I didn't change anything and won't. It would have been a minimal upgrade at purchase if it would have worked out.

[ajholt7]

I just believe from a safety standpoint taller sidewalk is the way to go. First time you are not paying close attention it will be your wheel that hits the curb not the tire. If you hit a pothole with low pro tires, again your wheel will take the beating. Impo, spend the money on the boat or just get some good looking 14's or 15's.

[mikehayburn]

I just believe from a safety standpoint taller sidewalk is the way to go. First time you are not paying close attention it will be your wheel that hits the curb not the tire. If you hit a pothole with low pro tires, again your wheel will take the beating. Impo, spend the money on the boat or just get some good looking 14's or 15's.

Good point... Does need some cush when we pull the boat..Thanks for look out..Maybe ill meet in the middle with 16s LOL:D

[Timmy!]

The 18's and 20's do have the rim protector on them to keep from rubbing the curb, the tire compounds on them will also be better for braking and will hold a higher speed rating. 20's definitely handle better than a big old sidewall too. The main reason I went with my trailer is that it has 4 wheel independent suspension and 4 wheel disc brakes.

[Iwndr]

My Z1 came with a boatmate trailer equipped with 255/45Z R18 tires. Why they installed a Z rated tire on a trailer is beyond me. I believe Z rated tires have a unlimited speed rating.
When they are wore out I plan on putting a normal 15" rim and trailer tire combo on it. I like they way they help cushion the ride better, The 18's sure look nice though:D

[majestic]

Mike,

I came across this site tonight if it is any help.

http://www.trailer-wheels.com/

[Nobody]

Hey Yall..
Looking to put 18in Rims on my trailer and i see alot of 20's and some 18's..The question is .. First..what size tires are going on the 18s to fit: the fender and are they a upgraded "load rated" tire or standard "car" tire??:confused:

Any help is appriciated..Thank you:cool:

Just buy this trailer.........3 axle, 7 tires and rims, fits 22' or 24'.

$3999.00

[gman]

Be careful here. If for some reason (hopefully not) you have major damage because of a blow out or just a tire failure, the tires that you have may not be rated for trailers. Insurance company may not support your claim. The tire manufacturer may also not help you becuase of a misapplication. Tires that go on trailers have a trailer rating. Car tires are not. That is not to say that they won't function. Just be mindful that this may become an issue.

[MoneyPity]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

Ditto

Even if I didn't have the 7ft door opening minus 3/4"

[Nobody]

Be careful here. If for some reason (hopefully not) you have major damage because of a blow out or just a tire failure, the tires that you have may not be rated for trailers. Insurance company may not support your claim. The tire manufacturer may also not help you becuase of a misapplication. Tires that go on trailers have a trailer rating. Car tires are not. That is not to say that they won't function. Just be mindful that this may become an issue.

An insurance company denying a claim because you have pimp rims and tires sounds like at bit of a stretch.

[Paublo]

I have been through this before. There are trailer tires and passenger car and truck tires. They are different and marked as such as a part of their label with the size on the sidewall. Trailer tires end with "TR" while for example light trucks end with "LT". If non-trailer tires are used on trailers they must be derated 25% off of their load ratings. My Extreme trailer came with 4 tires and a spare each rated at 1440# or 5760# total. When one had to be replaced, the tire store pointed out that when my "LT" tires were derated 25% the total capacity became only 4329#. The boat was 3940#, the trailer about 1100# and at least 500# for gas and gear for a total of 5540#. I eventually got Extreme to replace the 4 tires and I paid for the spare. I don't remeber all the details but there are DOT regulations and I pushed the trailer mfgr assn guidelines in their faces until they admitted they made a mistake. Most importantly, I noticed a big improvement in the quality of the ride with the trailer tires. They have a stronger sidewall and have less flex and bounce.

[majestic]

I have an Extreme trailer I better go look at my tires!

[Tanner]

Nobody you really need to be around 1800-2200 for that trailer.... Your way to high, that's why it's not selling. Doesn't matter what you think the rims, etc. add to the value. I actually looked at it when you first posted it up, but then I saw your price...lol. FYI... boatmate sells their overstocks sometimes around $2500.... just to give you reference.

As for the trailer tire vs. car tire argument... I will never buy another trailer w/ trailer tires again. The ride is so much better with the low profile car tires. I've instantly seen less de-treading and blow-outs by running car tires. I don't care what the experts say, I'm starting to believe the car tires are just built better as a pure safety matter. Think about it.... companies get sued if a car tires fails and causes a fatal accident. Usually if a trailer tire fails, you get a damaged fender and that's about it. Think about how many times we hear about people having blow-outs with their trailers....I don't really hear this on the boat trailers sporting car tires (not saying it doesn't happen).

[Nobody]

Nobody you really need to be around 1800-2200 for that trailer.... Your way to high, that's why it's not selling. Doesn't matter what you think the rims, etc. add to the value. I actually looked at it when you first posted it up, but then I saw your price...lol. FYI... boatmate sells their overstocks sometimes around $2500.... just to give you reference.

Dom....What say you?

[KonaKing]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

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[Timmy!]

I think if you are running 14" or 15" wheels and tires on your trailer then you might want to stick to trailer tires because they supposedly have stiffer sidewalls on a trailer tire. If you are running 17"+ on the trailer, I think car tires are just fine because those are going to have the stiff sidewall and a higher load capacity. The Goodyear Eagle GT II's that are on my trailer are just over 2,000 lbs capacity each.

[Tanner]

Dom....What say you?

You gotta go to the OT forum to catch DOM! :D

[Nobody]

You gotta go to the OT forum to catch DOM! :D

Tanner....somehow a decade has passed you by. Starting price on a Boatmate trailer is 5.6K (or higher), then add LED lights, backup light, swing away tongue, extra axle, spare, pimp rims, pimp tires, blah blah blah.....and everything else. $2500 trailers was pre 2002/2003. It's 2010....everything has doubled execpt salaries.

I'm wondering if were going to see $3.00 a gallon again this summer.

[thtrog]

I'll have to agree...I don't think many boat owners on this site would even consider taking $1800 - $2200 for their trailer. I bought a new Boatmate 22' tandem last summer and wish I could have got one for $2500 or even $4000. :02:

[Joeprunc]

I can understand if you bought a trailer that had nice rims and tires on it but to upgrade I guess I just don't get it... is it so it looks better parked and the launch or sitting in front of the house? Don't get me wrong I like blinged out trailers too but it will be the last thing I do if ever to my set up.

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But to the OP, I do understand the fact that you have to replace them all, so why not drop a bit more coin. Also with larger rims you are adding weight and loosing some brake power. I think the 16s are a good balance, I like my 14s :D. You mentioned that one tire was thrashed from a tow...how is the opposing tire? You might want to check your axle too, if a wheel was hit so hard to bend it, you might have additional issues. It would suck to put brand new wheels on only to find 100 miles down the road the tire looks the same.

[DieselPWR]

Along the same lines with the grage clearance, with the taller tires/wheels, it will make it a little more difficult to unload/load having to go deeper in the water. Not an issue with a steep conrete dock, but would be for a beach launch.

[Tanner]

Tanner....somehow a decade has passed you by. Starting price on a Boatmate trailer is 5.6K (or higher), then add LED lights, backup light, swing away tongue, extra axle, spare, pimp rims, pimp tires, blah blah blah.....and everything else. $2500 trailers was pre 2002/2003. It's 2010....everything has doubled execpt salaries.

I'm wondering if were going to see $3.00 a gallon again this summer.

I do know what a new trailer sells for, but your not selling a new trailer. Your dealing in a used commodity that not many people have use for. Also it is very boat specific at that. I realize new that trailer goes around 8-10K. Hell, pull up your Nada value for it. You do not get half of what a trailer is worth, like your trying to get. Like I said.... Just last year Boatmate had 5 of their trailers that were considered "overstock" that sold for $2500 a piece... now they were tandom axle, but it was their bling bling trailer. There's a reason you haven't sold it in a year of trying! LOL. But I do wish you luck, at least you've changed your ways on here! Personally, I'd keep it if I were you! You'll want it come time to sell the boat!

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I stand corrected.... I pulled up the NADA for you, and your right in line. I still don't think it'll move at that price.... but you never know! LOL

[majestic]

Tanner....somehow a decade has passed you by. Starting price on a Boatmate trailer is 5.6K (or higher), then add LED lights, backup light, swing away tongue, extra axle, spare, pimp rims, pimp tires, blah blah blah.....and everything else. $2500 trailers was pre 2002/2003. It's 2010....everything has doubled execpt salaries.

I'm wondering if were going to see $3.00 a gallon again this summer.

We are at $3.00 a gallon in Seattle already! We have a $.28 cent per gallon gas tax that doesn't help though.

[chpthril]

Bling, such as big wheels, LEDs, stereos, and other options, adds to the "curb appeal, but in the end, adds little to the bottom line price.

Example: the hot blond w/dble-D's would be nice, but does that that make her better in the sac then the frumpy Burnett at the end of the bar?

Another: the 20K swimming pool you put in may help your house sell faster the one down the street, but you wont get the 20K investment back.

[Nobody]

I do know what a new trailer sells for, but your not selling a new trailer. Your dealing in a used commodity that not many people have use for. Also it is very boat specific at that. I realize new that trailer goes around 8-10K. Hell, pull up your Nada value for it. You do not get half of what a trailer is worth, like your trying to get. Like I said.... Just last year Boatmate had 5 of their trailers that were considered "overstock" that sold for $2500 a piece... now they were tandom axle, but it was their bling bling trailer. There's a reason you haven't sold it in a year of trying! LOL. But I do wish you luck, at least you've changed your ways on here! Personally, I'd keep it if I were you! You'll want it come time to sell the boat!

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I stand corrected.... I pulled up the NADA for you, and your right in line. I still don't think it'll move at that price.... but you never know! LOL

Tanner...I believe you want our super bling triple axle, pimped to the 9's trailer. Go ahead, make us an offer. You never know??

[gman]

I know there is a lot of discussion on type of tires for a trailer. here are a couple of articles on type of tire use on trialers note the discussion regarding derating auto tires

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/westadvisor/10001/-1/10001/Trailer-Tire-Basics.htm

http://www.boatus.com/trailerclub/trailer_tires.asp

http://www.taskmasterproducts.com/acatalog/whybuytrailertires.pdf

[Nobody]

Nobody you really need to be around 1800-2200 for that trailer.... Your way to high, that's why it's not selling. Doesn't matter what you think the rims, etc. add to the value. I actually looked at it when you first posted it up, but then I saw your price...lol. FYI... boatmate sells their overstocks sometimes around $2500.... just to give you reference.

As for the trailer tire vs. car tire argument... I will never buy another trailer w/ trailer tires again. The ride is so much better with the low profile car tires. I've instantly seen less de-treading and blow-outs by running car tires. I don't care what the experts say, I'm starting to believe the car tires are just built better as a pure safety matter. Think about it.... companies get sued if a car tires fails and causes a fatal accident. Usually if a trailer tire fails, you get a damaged fender and that's about it. Think about how many times we hear about people having blow-outs with their trailers....I don't really hear this on the boat trailers sporting car tires (not saying it doesn't happen).


Trailer is sold! You missed out Tanner.

[Nobody]

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