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raythompson
05-16-2005, 05:46 PM
OK. This is really not a Tige 22V issue or even a Tige issue. I just thought I would relay my difficulties this weekend, mostly in frustration.

As many of you know I just recently acquired my Tige 22V and I am still trying to get to 20 hours for the first service. Oh, and by the way, that 20 hours is based on engine RPM and is really RPM hours, not actually running hours. But I digress.

Storm clouds appeared and in the south that means thunder boomers and rain, usually at the rate of an inch per hour. So we head back and put the boat on the trailer.

Oh joy, one tire is flat and I have no spare. In 20+ years of boating I have never had a flat so why would I want a spare that is expensive and eventually dry rots. By now the rain has started (did I mention the rate of downpour?).

I head over to a local hardware store that is close to the ramp and get a can of Fix-A-Flat, got the size for large tires. Well the tire took the entire can and was still not inflated. Bummer. So I slowly drive the 200 yards to a local gassery and use their air pump to inflate the tire. The tire does not inflate. This is not looking good.

Drove to a place to park and watched the Fix-A-Flat drain out from under the trailer. This is looking even worse. So I get the jack from the truck and the lug wrench. The lug wrench is too small as the lug nuts on the trailer are bigger. So I go to the local hardware store and get a socket and a handle. Now we are cooking.

Put the jack under the axle, or rather tried. Seems the truck jack is about 1/4 inch too tall to fit under the axle. Did I mention the rate of rainfall while this is going on?

So I call a friend and tell him to go to my house, use the secret key, and get my floor jack. I wait for 30 minutes and he arrives. The floor jack works and I get the wheel assembly off the trailer. Now it is discovered that all the tire dealers are closed on Saturday afternoon.

So we head to Wally World to get a tire. Of course they do not have a trailer tire. So I get a passenger car tire that will work until I get home. Trailer tires have a stiffer sidewall which is really necessary for a dual axle trailer. We get the tire, put it on the trailer and all is well. Did I mention the downpour?

Now I am soaked, out about $60.00 (tire plus wrench). We make it home without any further incident. Total extra time is about two hours.

Sometime this week I will get the proper replacement tire. What I will do with the purchased tire I do not know as it will not have a rim. I am not about to pay for a new rim that will rarely get used. I may look for a used rim and have the tire mounted.

Will I now carry a spare, wrench, and a jack? No. I don't go far enough from home that it is worth the hassles. I have friends that can come for the very rare time I need assistance. I will only be out time.

So what happened to make the tire go drastically flat? Well, after inspecting the ramp it was discovered that some slope head with three active brain cells, one tooth (and it is decaying), (maybe even owns a Mastercraft) broke a bottle on the ramp under water surface. It could not be seen while backing. The broken glass sliced through the sidewall on the tire effectively completely destroying an almost new tire.

But such is the life of a new boat. Something always has to happen to keep one humble.

leisure
05-16-2005, 06:35 PM
What ramp were you using so I can make sure and avoid it!

raythompson
05-16-2005, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by leisure
What ramp were you using so I can make sure and avoid it!
Ladd's Landing in Kingston.

smendez
05-16-2005, 11:07 PM
Murphy's law at work. I always carry a spare tire. I call it my lucky tire. It keeps the other 4 from going flat ;)

Glad to hear that you finally made it home ok.

raythompson
05-16-2005, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by smendez
Murphy's law at work. I always carry a spare tire. I call it my lucky tire. It keeps the other 4 from going flat ;)

Glad to hear that you finally made it home ok.

Right. And Murphy was an optimist.

Tequilasun
05-18-2005, 03:43 PM
I call that the #1 reason to have a tandem trailer, you could have been stuck on the ramp with that flat. You would have had to drag to flat ground = no more rim.

Then the jack would not have fit under the axle.



Bad experiences like this, make the good ones even sweeter.

raythompson
05-18-2005, 05:10 PM
The rim was sitting on the tire, which was on the ground. It was as flat as any tire on a single axle trailer. There was still significant weight on the axle based on the umph needed to jack the axle up.

Tomorrow I will remove the temporary tire and get a proper trailer tire. Should be a little easier with the boat in the driveway and not pouring down rain.

Such is life with a new boat. Something has to happen. My first boat I curled two blades of a stainless prop on a low water concrete damn under the water. Talk about vibration. That was a $200.00 repair to straighten the prop. So a new tire is probably within the ball park for an initiation fee.

Matt Garcia
05-18-2005, 05:58 PM
What a bummer Ray. I have had a few days like that with the boat when everything does not work out.

What amazes me is that you still will not carry a spare? :confused:

raythompson
05-18-2005, 07:08 PM
Well, in 20+ years of pulling a boat I have never had a flat tire. Also I was operational in 2 hours. The added cost of the spare, having to secure it to the trailer, or carry it in the back of the truck, plus carry a jack that will fit under the trailer axles, plus having to carry a socket and handle that fits the trailer lugs, plus worry about dry rot, plus having to maintain another tire, just does not seem like it is worth the hassle.

I now only trailer a maximum of 30 miles and generally much less than that.

I have lost a trailer axle and trailer springs, but not a tire until now.

I can generally contact a friend and get assistance if I need the assistance.

I have seen more problems from people on the lake with no gas, ignition systems fail, slipped prop disks, bad fuel pumps, dead batteries, etc. than I have seen from failed tires. Yet no one carries spare components for these failures. And being stuck on the water is much more of a hassle than being stuck on the road.

So it seems to me that the smaller of my worries are a spare tire.

ghollow
05-18-2005, 07:57 PM
Being stuck on the water is more of a hassle than being stuck on the road, but being stuck anywhere is a hassle.
I have seven different trailers that I pull from time to time and I have spares for all of them ( four of them use the same spare). Every time I pull one of them it is at least 150 miles one way. I have had flats on all of them from time to time except for my Tige. I have never had a flat on it but my spare for it is mounted on the trailer and the wheel is the same mag I have on the trailer so it at least looks cool. I also carry a 4-way lug wrench and a bottle jack where ever I go. The bottle jack is easier to use than the truck jack anyway. They probably cost $50 bucks total and have saved my butt many times in time and money. When you have four grouchy kids and a tired wife in the SUV, getting back on the road in fifteen minutes is priceless.

Beau McCrory
05-19-2005, 04:10 AM
ok, what's a bottle jack???

ghollow
05-19-2005, 11:30 AM
This is a bottle jack. They cost around $10-$15. Any place that sells automotive stuff sells them. The one I carry is a 4-ton and is about 8" tall.

Tige M.D.
05-19-2005, 03:06 PM
ohhhhh, i thought you ment bottle of jack:D

ghollow
05-19-2005, 03:47 PM
That is not a bad idea either Tige MD

Beau McCrory
05-26-2005, 04:25 AM
bottle jack + bottle of Jack = easier tire change. Got it!

switchme
05-29-2005, 04:33 AM
I read this the other day & thought what a bummer. Then today when I put my boat back on the trailer I noticed that one tire was a little low. I drove to a gas station about a mile away when I noticed a screw in the tire. I filled it with air & drove home a little over 9 miles away. I ordered a spare tire a month ago but haven't picked up yet. I was worried all the way home. I'm glad for the tadem axle trailer though. At least it didn't ruin the weekend ( I got the tire fixed today & will be out again tomorrow.)

Happy Weekend Tige's